fishin for trout in lakes

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Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

That's right dickie dean. Earnest replies! Not the Ernest T. Bass crap
that you post because if truth be know, you don't actually flyfish. Sure,
anyone can claim of going to Colorado to flyfish, but I don't by it. No you
are here merely to post your childish gibberish. Much like you mentor
Kenny, you have to be center of attention and if you aren't front and
center? you attack a decent individual.

Mark

"snakefiddler" wrote
in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Not knowing your lake and presuming you are shore fishing, my son "always"
has great luck using damsel fly and dragon fly nymphs indigenous to the
specific water body. His theory is that these nymphs are such a big meal
that they attract and invite strikes from the smarter medium and large sized
trout. Try strip fishing one of these bead head and/or weighted nymphs with
a sink tip floating line and see if you can get some takes.

Good luck!

John

snakefiddler wrote:
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Try looking at some of the British fishing sites. They are very big on
fishing "still water." Flyfisherman and Flytyer magazine (the best fly
fishing magazine in the world) has quite a bit on this. There is a good
article in the most recent issue. It is pricey (i.e. 7-9 dollars US),
but can be found in most good bookstores (I go to Borders).
The key to still water is getting the flies to where the fish are. It
is extremely difficult to fly fish deeper than 8 or 9 feet and that is a
stretch. Sink tip and full sink lines are used for the most part.
Secondarily, getting to where the fish are requires some kind of
floatation, either belly boat or full boat or something in between.
When there is deep water available, the fish don't often hug the
shoreline where you can cast.

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Frank Reid
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"snakefiddler" wrote...
yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

On our local lakes/ponds that hold trout, I've found the surface fishing poor
except at dawn and dusk. During those times, I use the same types of dry flies
as a stream, depending on the visible hatch. Subsurface, damselfly nymphs and
wooly buggers usually produce a fish or two.
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snakefiddler wrote:

my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Yes. Definitely. It's another world.

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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:40:42 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote:

yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Oh, definitely...either the "Tovex Surprise" or "BUZ-TA 312" patterns
are surefire fish getters...of course, when all else fails, there's the
"Ro-10-1," but you can't use it in FFing-only waters.

Here's one recipe for the Tovex:

Hook: 1/1.1
Body: dubbed with Tasmanian Tiger
Tail: Guacamayo
Hackle: Grizzly Mamo
Wings: Shellduck hen


HTH,
R

Unless you don't care what you catch, you would likely need to use at least a sinkin'
tip line and a nymph pattern. You could catch some brim or bluegills along the banks,
but you aren't likely to catch any trout in the shallows, unless you just happen upon
some along the banks. Most likely, any lake trout are going to be in the deeper
waters feedin' on nymphs or minnows--dependin' on their size of course.

Never fished there myself.

Mark

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

"snakefiddler" wrote
in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?

Not knowing your lake and presuming you are shore fishing, my son "always"
has great luck using damsel fly and dragon fly nymphs indigenous to the
specific water body. His theory is that these nymphs are such a big meal
that they attract and invite strikes from the smarter medium and large sized
trout. Try strip fishing one of these bead head and/or weighted nymphs with
a sink tip floating line and see if you can get some takes.

Good luck!

John

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
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yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his
first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler



It is somewhat different to fish a lake than river. The biggest difference
is that the lake is relative featureless. In a river you easily see pools,
riffles and flats etc. Trout in lakes tend to concentrate in certain areas
just as in rivers; shoals, sunken islands, drop offs, creek inlets, spring
holes, treed shorelines etc. Many who fish a new lake for the 1st time find
the drop off between shoreline shoals and deep water then 360 the lake
trolling a basic fly like a wooly bugger, a leech or a scud. This will
usually locate fish. Then concentrate on those areas.

The forage for trout in lakes is usally a bit different as well. In general
midges, scuds, damsel nymphs and dragons are important, caddis less so and
stone flies all but absent. If I don't know what food predominates I use a
smaller wooly bugger (#10) in olive if the lake has lots of weed and in
black or brown if the bottom is mud. If I catch a fish I'll sample it's
stomach contentrs either by autopsy or with a stomach pump.

A third consideration for lakes is stratification. The water stratifies by
temperature. When surface temps exceed 65 degrees trout will not feed on
shoals or close to the surface. In summer ideal temps may be 30 feet down.
Time to get out Type 3,4 or even type 6 full sinking lines.

Some years a go Randall Kaufman published a good book on lake fishing. I
think it's still in print.

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 18:40:42 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote:

yesterday my son and i went fishin at a local lake in blowin rock ,
(appropriately called trout lake). he fished with his spin rod, i with my
fly rod. he had an artificial worm on his hook, which landed him his first
trout. i, in spite of trying a few different flies, got nothing. my
question is this. in the absence of a hatch, when fishing for trout in
lakes, does one approach fly selection differently than when fishing
streams?


you ever fish in there mark?

snakefiddler

Aw...well, look at all the earnest replies - ain't it all just sweeter
than a bottle of creme de menthe at front-row seats of the Hillary Duff
concert at Holly Hobbie Land, with whipped cream and sugar on top.

Hey, you gotta give credit where it's due - on rare occasions, Ken
appears to be right - you are either full of more **** than a flock of
Christmas geese, a fake, or dumber than a box of rocks...

And as a preemptive: Mark, I realize you can't do any better, but how
about _differenly_? You really need to learn how to control your
snatch...well, and the girls you introduce to ROFF, too...