Dropshotting

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either)

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...

Snip

I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't
either)

Snip

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances.



Combining a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above
the swivel for the CR rig.

I hereby decree this rig to be christened 'The Rabid Raccoon Rig' in honor
of it's (snicker) inventor.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was
merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT
was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so
therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't
either)


It is doubtful that you could have secure a patent on it or else you
certainly would have, knowing the schrewed and wise businessman that you
are. And as far as I'm concerned, it is still the "Jay Yelas rig" and not
the "Rodney Long rig".

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

Perhaps, but you were the one that jumped on my case for not giving you the
credit for inventing the rig in question. I don't know you nor do I care to
know you. I have never heard of you or your inventions. I care about Bass
fishing and don't give a care as to who invents what. Most of the inovations
that have come about in the last twenty years in the fishing industry are
really nothing more than rehashes of old lures, techniques or ect. with a
twist and most of those that do come along die well deserved death as they
are designed to catch fishermen, not fish. Tried and true always comes
thourgh in the end.

thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Best of luck to you, if thats the life you choose to lead. I honestly wish
you the best and all the sucessing your endevors. As for it not being
important to you to get the proper credit from fishermen, keep in mind that
ultimately it is the fisherman that will pay the bills and make you the big
bucks and not the big boys in the industry. It is little ole me and the
folks like me, that goes to Bass Pro Shops and plops down my hard earned
$5.00 for a spinnerbait or the like or there wouldn't be any big players in
the fishing industry. It sure it was important for Gary Yamamoto to be
credited with the Senko by fisherman and now He IS a big boy in the fishing
industry. The same can probably be said for Bill Lewis and the Rattle Trap
i'm sure and I know He is a big boy in the fishing industry.


Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor

Bud, the key word in this discussion is product. In my reply to the OP, the
discussion was on technique, Not product. He was inquiring about
dropshotting. If you want to make your fortune, you better do so with a
product not a technique or it ain't gonna happen as Bubba says. Name me one
person, just one, that has become rich and famous from selling a technique.
Some pros are noted for the expertise in a given technique, but they don't
try to sell it in Walmart.

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was
merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT
was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so
therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't
either)


It is doubtful that you could have secure a patent on it or else you
certainly would have, knowing the schrewed and wise businessman that you
are. And as far as I'm concerned, it is still the "Jay Yelas rig" and not
the "Rodney Long rig".

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

Perhaps, but you were the one that jumped on my case for not giving you the
credit for inventing the rig in question. I don't know you nor do I care to
know you. I have never heard of you or your inventions. I care about Bass
fishing and don't give a care as to who invents what. Most of the inovations
that have come about in the last twenty years in the fishing industry are
really nothing more than rehashes of old lures, techniques or ect. with a
twist and most of those that do come along die well deserved death as they
are designed to catch fishermen, not fish. Tried and true always comes
thourgh in the end.

thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Best of luck to you, if thats the life you choose to lead. I honestly wish
you the best and all the sucessing your endevors. As for it not being
important to you to get the proper credit from fishermen, keep in mind that
ultimately it is the fisherman that will pay the bills and make you the big
bucks and not the big boys in the industry. It is little ole me and the
folks like me, that goes to Bass Pro Shops and plops down my hard earned
$5.00 for a spinnerbait or the like or there wouldn't be any big players in
the fishing industry. It sure it was important for Gary Yamamoto to be
credited with the Senko by fisherman and now He IS a big boy in the fishing
industry. The same can probably be said for Bill Lewis and the Rattle Trap
i'm sure and I know He is a big boy in the fishing industry.


Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor

Bud, the key word in this discussion is product. In my reply to the OP, the
discussion was on technique, Not product. He was inquiring about
dropshotting. If you want to make your fortune, you better do so with a
product not a technique or it ain't gonna happen as Bubba says. Name me one
person, just one, that has become rich and famous from selling a technique.
Some pros are noted for the expertise in a given technique, but they don't
try to sell it in Walmart.

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was
merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT
was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so
therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't
either)


It is doubtful that you could have secure a patent on it or else you
certainly would have, knowing the schrewed and wise businessman that you
are. And as far as I'm concerned, it is still the "Jay Yelas rig" and not
the "Rodney Long rig".

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

Perhaps, but you were the one that jumped on my case for not giving you the
credit for inventing the rig in question. I don't know you nor do I care to
know you. I have never heard of you or your inventions. I care about Bass
fishing and don't give a care as to who invents what. Most of the inovations
that have come about in the last twenty years in the fishing industry are
really nothing more than rehashes of old lures, techniques or ect. with a
twist and most of those that do come along die well deserved death as they
are designed to catch fishermen, not fish. Tried and true always comes
thourgh in the end.

thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Best of luck to you, if thats the life you choose to lead. I honestly wish
you the best and all the sucessing your endevors. As for it not being
important to you to get the proper credit from fishermen, keep in mind that
ultimately it is the fisherman that will pay the bills and make you the big
bucks and not the big boys in the industry. It is little ole me and the
folks like me, that goes to Bass Pro Shops and plops down my hard earned
$5.00 for a spinnerbait or the like or there wouldn't be any big players in
the fishing industry. It sure it was important for Gary Yamamoto to be
credited with the Senko by fisherman and now He IS a big boy in the fishing
industry. The same can probably be said for Bill Lewis and the Rattle Trap
i'm sure and I know He is a big boy in the fishing industry.


Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor

Bud, the key word in this discussion is product. In my reply to the OP, the
discussion was on technique, Not product. He was inquiring about
dropshotting. If you want to make your fortune, you better do so with a
product not a technique or it ain't gonna happen as Bubba says. Name me one
person, just one, that has become rich and famous from selling a technique.
Some pros are noted for the expertise in a given technique, but they don't
try to sell it in Walmart.

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...

Snip

I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't
either)

Snip

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances.



Combining a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above
the swivel for the CR rig.

I hereby decree this rig to be christened 'The Rabid Raccoon Rig' in honor
of it's (snicker) inventor.

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either)

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it, but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,
which I'm sure that you invented also!

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com