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Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney, Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken less. You may or may not have invented it, I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was not claiming it... but who gives a rats rear end as you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig, It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) which I'm sure that you invented also! Now your being an A.H. All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your thunder and get a life. This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap! As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry. It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out from under the true inventor -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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![]() "Rodney" . wrote in message ... Snip I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) Snip This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances. Combining a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. I hereby decree this rig to be christened 'The Rabid Raccoon Rig' in honor of it's (snicker) inventor. |
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![]() "Rodney" . wrote in message ... Doyce McIlvene wrote: Rodney, Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken less. You may or may not have invented it, I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was not claiming it... but who gives a rats rear end as you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig, It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) It is doubtful that you could have secure a patent on it or else you certainly would have, knowing the schrewed and wise businessman that you are. And as far as I'm concerned, it is still the "Jay Yelas rig" and not the "Rodney Long rig". which I'm sure that you invented also! Now your being an A.H. Perhaps, but you were the one that jumped on my case for not giving you the credit for inventing the rig in question. I don't know you nor do I care to know you. I have never heard of you or your inventions. I care about Bass fishing and don't give a care as to who invents what. Most of the inovations that have come about in the last twenty years in the fishing industry are really nothing more than rehashes of old lures, techniques or ect. with a twist and most of those that do come along die well deserved death as they are designed to catch fishermen, not fish. Tried and true always comes thourgh in the end. thunder and get a life. This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances Best of luck to you, if thats the life you choose to lead. I honestly wish you the best and all the sucessing your endevors. As for it not being important to you to get the proper credit from fishermen, keep in mind that ultimately it is the fisherman that will pay the bills and make you the big bucks and not the big boys in the industry. It is little ole me and the folks like me, that goes to Bass Pro Shops and plops down my hard earned $5.00 for a spinnerbait or the like or there wouldn't be any big players in the fishing industry. It sure it was important for Gary Yamamoto to be credited with the Senko by fisherman and now He IS a big boy in the fishing industry. The same can probably be said for Bill Lewis and the Rattle Trap i'm sure and I know He is a big boy in the fishing industry. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap! As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry. It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out from under the true inventor Bud, the key word in this discussion is product. In my reply to the OP, the discussion was on technique, Not product. He was inquiring about dropshotting. If you want to make your fortune, you better do so with a product not a technique or it ain't gonna happen as Bubba says. Name me one person, just one, that has become rich and famous from selling a technique. Some pros are noted for the expertise in a given technique, but they don't try to sell it in Walmart. Cheers, -- Doyce |
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![]() "Rodney" . wrote in message ... Doyce McIlvene wrote: Rodney, Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken less. You may or may not have invented it, I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was not claiming it... but who gives a rats rear end as you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig, It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) It is doubtful that you could have secure a patent on it or else you certainly would have, knowing the schrewed and wise businessman that you are. And as far as I'm concerned, it is still the "Jay Yelas rig" and not the "Rodney Long rig". which I'm sure that you invented also! Now your being an A.H. Perhaps, but you were the one that jumped on my case for not giving you the credit for inventing the rig in question. I don't know you nor do I care to know you. I have never heard of you or your inventions. I care about Bass fishing and don't give a care as to who invents what. Most of the inovations that have come about in the last twenty years in the fishing industry are really nothing more than rehashes of old lures, techniques or ect. with a twist and most of those that do come along die well deserved death as they are designed to catch fishermen, not fish. Tried and true always comes thourgh in the end. thunder and get a life. This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances Best of luck to you, if thats the life you choose to lead. I honestly wish you the best and all the sucessing your endevors. As for it not being important to you to get the proper credit from fishermen, keep in mind that ultimately it is the fisherman that will pay the bills and make you the big bucks and not the big boys in the industry. It is little ole me and the folks like me, that goes to Bass Pro Shops and plops down my hard earned $5.00 for a spinnerbait or the like or there wouldn't be any big players in the fishing industry. It sure it was important for Gary Yamamoto to be credited with the Senko by fisherman and now He IS a big boy in the fishing industry. The same can probably be said for Bill Lewis and the Rattle Trap i'm sure and I know He is a big boy in the fishing industry. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap! As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry. It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out from under the true inventor Bud, the key word in this discussion is product. In my reply to the OP, the discussion was on technique, Not product. He was inquiring about dropshotting. If you want to make your fortune, you better do so with a product not a technique or it ain't gonna happen as Bubba says. Name me one person, just one, that has become rich and famous from selling a technique. Some pros are noted for the expertise in a given technique, but they don't try to sell it in Walmart. Cheers, -- Doyce |
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![]() "Rodney" . wrote in message ... Doyce McIlvene wrote: Rodney, Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken less. You may or may not have invented it, I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was not claiming it... but who gives a rats rear end as you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig, It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) It is doubtful that you could have secure a patent on it or else you certainly would have, knowing the schrewed and wise businessman that you are. And as far as I'm concerned, it is still the "Jay Yelas rig" and not the "Rodney Long rig". which I'm sure that you invented also! Now your being an A.H. Perhaps, but you were the one that jumped on my case for not giving you the credit for inventing the rig in question. I don't know you nor do I care to know you. I have never heard of you or your inventions. I care about Bass fishing and don't give a care as to who invents what. Most of the inovations that have come about in the last twenty years in the fishing industry are really nothing more than rehashes of old lures, techniques or ect. with a twist and most of those that do come along die well deserved death as they are designed to catch fishermen, not fish. Tried and true always comes thourgh in the end. thunder and get a life. This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances Best of luck to you, if thats the life you choose to lead. I honestly wish you the best and all the sucessing your endevors. As for it not being important to you to get the proper credit from fishermen, keep in mind that ultimately it is the fisherman that will pay the bills and make you the big bucks and not the big boys in the industry. It is little ole me and the folks like me, that goes to Bass Pro Shops and plops down my hard earned $5.00 for a spinnerbait or the like or there wouldn't be any big players in the fishing industry. It sure it was important for Gary Yamamoto to be credited with the Senko by fisherman and now He IS a big boy in the fishing industry. The same can probably be said for Bill Lewis and the Rattle Trap i'm sure and I know He is a big boy in the fishing industry. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap! As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry. It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out from under the true inventor Bud, the key word in this discussion is product. In my reply to the OP, the discussion was on technique, Not product. He was inquiring about dropshotting. If you want to make your fortune, you better do so with a product not a technique or it ain't gonna happen as Bubba says. Name me one person, just one, that has become rich and famous from selling a technique. Some pros are noted for the expertise in a given technique, but they don't try to sell it in Walmart. Cheers, -- Doyce |
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![]() "Rodney" . wrote in message ... Snip I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) Snip This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances. Combining a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. I hereby decree this rig to be christened 'The Rabid Raccoon Rig' in honor of it's (snicker) inventor. |
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Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney, Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken less. You may or may not have invented it, I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was not claiming it... but who gives a rats rear end as you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig, It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either) which I'm sure that you invented also! Now your being an A.H. All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your thunder and get a life. This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV exposure chances Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap! As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry. It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out from under the true inventor -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken less. You may or may not have invented it, but who gives a rats rear end as you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig, which I'm sure that you invented also! All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your thunder and get a life. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap! Cheers, -- Doyce "Rodney" . wrote in message ... Doyce McIlvene wrote: Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing. According to Yelas, WEll he DID not come up with it I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance using it on his show 32 months ago I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.
"Rodney" . wrote in message ... Doyce McIlvene wrote: Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing. According to Yelas, WEll he DID not come up with it I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance using it on his show 32 months ago I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.
"Rodney" . wrote in message ... Doyce McIlvene wrote: Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing. According to Yelas, WEll he DID not come up with it I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance using it on his show 32 months ago I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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