Its looking grim

Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry can hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

Living outside the US, I can feel the air getting sucked out from the
collective gasp of other nations. This week has been dominated on TV by talk
shows and editorials from other countries showing overwhelming support for
Kerry, or at least for a change away from Bush. I think its also indicative
that all the major urban centers in the US have voted to change Presidents,
and that of all the places who actually FELT the impact of 9/11....New York
City, voted ovwhelmingly for Kerry. The rest of the country is running from
paranoia. A woman was quoted on CNN yesterday as saying 'nothing else
matters. I'm voting for my personal safety". Yeah, right. I'd like to
smack her upside the head (which would be more than a little microcosmic).

So we can look forward to 4 more years of Bush. But worse years than before.
He now feels like he has a *mandate*, a vote of approval to continue his
policies. If we thought he was stubborn and out-of-touch before, we ain't
seen nothing yet. We can expect the national debt, already beyond
imaginable, to skyrocket immediately: the Repubs have already exceeded the
debt ceiling through 'creative bookkeeping', but put off officially having
it raised beyond $7.384 trillion until after the election. The first quarter
of next year is already predicted to break the previous record, set in the
first quarter of this year.

We can look forward to 4 more years of war, of international alienation
(coupled with a "we don't care, we don't have to" attitude from the US), 4
more years of forests and wilderness lands being sold off for industry
profit, 4 more years of belligerant government for big business, 4 more
years of undoing environmental policies, 4 more years of increased impacts
on global warming, 4 more years of dirty politics like what Tom Delay did in
Texas, and almost certainly there will be more 'bedroom scandals' like Enron
and Halliburton.

We've given the henhouse keys to the foxes. It was handed to them by the
countryfolk of the heartland, people who believe the hyperbole and spin, who
actually felt that their lives were in personal danger, and who have no idea
the harm they have just done to our country.

God help us all.

--riverman

How tragic it is... Well put Riverman.

Tony

"riverman" wrote in message
...
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry can
hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

God help us all.

riverman

How tragic it is... Well put Riverman.

Tony

"riverman" wrote in message
...
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry can
hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

God help us all.

riverman

riverman wrote:
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry
can hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

It's the same zero sum game as 2000. Even if by some chance the results
in Ohio get changed to send the electoral votes to Kerry, he's going to
have to live with the won the college, lost the popular vote stuff Bush
dealth with.

It's over, best those of us who think Bush is a danger can hope for
right now is that over the next two years they screw up enough to get
these single issue people PO'd enough but not enough to do anymore
longer term damage and hopefully get control of the house away from the
republicans in 2006.

Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.

riverman wrote:
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry
can hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

It's the same zero sum game as 2000. Even if by some chance the results
in Ohio get changed to send the electoral votes to Kerry, he's going to
have to live with the won the college, lost the popular vote stuff Bush
dealth with.

It's over, best those of us who think Bush is a danger can hope for
right now is that over the next two years they screw up enough to get
these single issue people PO'd enough but not enough to do anymore
longer term damage and hopefully get control of the house away from the
republicans in 2006.

Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.

On 3 Nov 2004 05:48:40 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


riverman wrote:
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry
can hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

It's the same zero sum game as 2000. Even if by some chance the results
in Ohio get changed to send the electoral votes to Kerry, he's going to
have to live with the won the college, lost the popular vote stuff Bush
dealth with.

It's over, best those of us who think Bush is a danger can hope for
right now is that over the next two years they screw up enough to get
these single issue people PO'd enough but not enough to do anymore
longer term damage and hopefully get control of the house away from the
republicans in 2006.

Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.


Whaddya think? A Jeb and Hillary match up?


g.c.

On 3 Nov 2004 05:48:40 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


riverman wrote:
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best Kerry
can hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled) House.

It's the same zero sum game as 2000. Even if by some chance the results
in Ohio get changed to send the electoral votes to Kerry, he's going to
have to live with the won the college, lost the popular vote stuff Bush
dealth with.

It's over, best those of us who think Bush is a danger can hope for
right now is that over the next two years they screw up enough to get
these single issue people PO'd enough but not enough to do anymore
longer term damage and hopefully get control of the house away from the
republicans in 2006.

Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.


Whaddya think? A Jeb and Hillary match up?


g.c.

GC writes:

Whaddya think? A Jeb and Hillary match up?

Nah! A Rudy and Hillary makes more sense.

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
On 3 Nov 2004 05:48:40 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


riverman wrote:
Votes are coming in, and it looks at last count like the best
Kerry
can hope
for is to tie, where it goes to the (Republican-controlled)
House.

It's the same zero sum game as 2000. Even if by some chance the
results
in Ohio get changed to send the electoral votes to Kerry, he's
going to
have to live with the won the college, lost the popular vote stuff
Bush
dealth with.

It's over, best those of us who think Bush is a danger can hope for
right now is that over the next two years they screw up enough to
get
these single issue people PO'd enough but not enough to do anymore
longer term damage and hopefully get control of the house away from
the
republicans in 2006.

Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.


Whaddya think? A Jeb and Hillary match up?

Hm.....where would that leave Bill and Monica?

Wolfgang
who, despite his best efforts, continues to be more and more confused
by the intricacies of diplomacy.

On 03 Nov 2004 14:06:45 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

GC writes:

Whaddya think? A Jeb and Hillary match up?

Nah! A Rudy and Hillary makes more sense.








Do you think that the conservative Republicans will vote for him in
the primaries.


g.c.