Roll Casting?

rw wrote:
Tim J. wrote:

Like
Gary said, make the "D" and let as much remaining line as possible
rest on the water.

It's best to have as LITTLE line remaining on the water as possible,
to avoid what the spey casters call "stick."

Hmmm. . . I've not had that problem, but I've never spey cast, either.
I've watched many people roll cast, and watched several videos, all of
which state the line remains on the water. Here's an example:
http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/jbrollcast/
One of the people I *haven't* watched is you, so maybe you're on to
something new and better.
--
TL,
Tim
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 07:59:56 -0600, "No Left Turn"
wrote:

What is the best set up for roll casting?

A Fast Rod or Slow?
Graphite, bamboo or fiberglass?
Your long, longer or longest rod?

Weight Forward or Level line?
Would you do better to move up or down a line weight?

Well, since roll casting is basically a "make-do" in a particular spot
where you have limited room for a backcast, the _only_ set-up is the one
you're already using. Why would you wish to carry a second rod, etc.,
while fishing set-up only for the roll casts? IMO, the problems in
doing so would far outweigh any benefit gained by having such a second
"optimized" roll casting setup, but, I suppose, YMMV.

If, on the other hand, you're asking what's best when you know ALL
you'll be able to do is roll cast, then use whatever is most appropriate
for the quarry you're after - i.e., I'd not use a 10 on a small trout
stream. Most often, a roll casting-only water/situation would occur on
smaller, obstruction-lined/overhung waters, for smaller quarry, and as
such, a lighter, shorter rod is going to be called for anyway, but the
specifics (action, etc.) are going to be more a personal preference
rather than a "this is better subjectively" situation.

Bottom line: In most cases, IMO, unless there is a particular water that
you will fish _a lot_ and need to buy/replace tackle for it anyway,
trying to "tune" a rig for roll casting will be a waste of time (again,
YMMV). OTOH, if you have a specific unique situation in mind, please
give details, and I'm sure you'll get lots of ideas.

And.....more important
Single Malt or Brandy in the flask?

2 flasks...

Brunette or Red Head?

Both, and a blonde...

Thanks

You're welcome.

wrote in news:4g80t0ll8re2a0nmok8kso1fht3465v5o0@
4ax.com:

Bottom line: In most cases, IMO, unless there is a particular water that
you will fish _a lot_ and need to buy/replace tackle for it anyway,
trying to "tune" a rig for roll casting will be a waste of time (again,
YMMV). OTOH, if you have a specific unique situation in mind, please
give details, and I'm sure you'll get lots of ideas.


To some extent, but let's say that a person has far more luck roll casting
with a WF rather than a double taper, but finds it a tad easier to get
very long casts with a DT. The person needs to decide just how important
that "tad" is, and buy the appropriate line. Also, many backcasts begin
with a roll cast to clear slack, so roll casting can be very important,
depending on casting style.

Scott

On 27 Dec 2004 15:22:04 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

wrote in news:4g80t0ll8re2a0nmok8kso1fht3465v5o0@
4ax.com:

Bottom line: In most cases, IMO, unless there is a particular water that
you will fish _a lot_ and need to buy/replace tackle for it anyway,
trying to "tune" a rig for roll casting will be a waste of time (again,
YMMV). OTOH, if you have a specific unique situation in mind, please
give details, and I'm sure you'll get lots of ideas.


To some extent, but let's say that a person has far more luck roll casting
with a WF rather than a double taper, but finds it a tad easier to get
very long casts with a DT. The person needs to decide just how important
that "tad" is, and buy the appropriate line. Also, many backcasts begin
with a roll cast to clear slack, so roll casting can be very important,
depending on casting style.

I'll not dispute any of that. But much/all of that is purely subjective
(note: I tend to type/write pretty fast, and in my original response, I
used "'this is better subjectively' situation." when I meant
"objectively") and not answerable, or IMO even guessable, given the
information provided by the original poster.

TC,
R

wrote in news:4g80t0ll8re2a0nmok8kso1fht3465v5o0@
4ax.com:

Bottom line: In most cases, IMO, unless there is a particular water that
you will fish _a lot_ and need to buy/replace tackle for it anyway,
trying to "tune" a rig for roll casting will be a waste of time (again,
YMMV). OTOH, if you have a specific unique situation in mind, please
give details, and I'm sure you'll get lots of ideas.


To some extent, but let's say that a person has far more luck roll casting
with a WF rather than a double taper, but finds it a tad easier to get
very long casts with a DT. The person needs to decide just how important
that "tad" is, and buy the appropriate line. Also, many backcasts begin
with a roll cast to clear slack, so roll casting can be very important,
depending on casting style.

Scott

"No Left Turn" wrote in message
...
What is the best set up for roll casting?

A rod and line.


A Fast Rod or Slow?

Fast

Graphite, bamboo or fiberglass?

Epoxy resin reinforced Carbon fibre

Your long, longer or longest rod?


Long

Weight Forward or Level line?

DT

Would you do better to move up or down a line weight?


UP

And.....more important
Single Malt or Brandy in the flask?

Cragganmore

Brunette or Red Head?


You are looking at the wrong end.

Thanks

Don´t mention it.

Steve P
Member: Dallas Fly Fishers

Yeah well, into every life a little rain must fall!


TL
MC

Mike Connor wrote:

"No Left Turn" wrote in message
...

Brunette or Red Head?



You are looking at the wrong end.

Maybe he isn't. ;-)

brians, sometimes there's only one way to tell for sure

Mike Connor wrote:

"No Left Turn" wrote in message
...

Brunette or Red Head?



You are looking at the wrong end.

Maybe he isn't. ;-)

brians, sometimes there's only one way to tell for sure

I roll cast whatever i am using at the time

"No Left Turn" wrote in message
...
What is the best set up for roll casting?

A Fast Rod or Slow?
Graphite, bamboo or fiberglass?
Your long, longer or longest rod?

Weight Forward or Level line?
Would you do better to move up or down a line weight?

And.....more important
Single Malt or Brandy in the flask?
Brunette or Red Head?

Thanks
Steve P
Member: Dallas Fly Fishers