John Day River Smallmouth Clave?

I'd be up for a Service Cr. to Clarno trip and can provide a drift boat.
My
experince witht he JD indicates that hitting the right water level for
fish
or floating can be problematic....too high and the fishing is 0, to low
and it's a
bottom bouncer.
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Good Point! That be the nature of the beast, with no damns and free
flowing. (Still not worth damning a river to get consistant flows, IMHO).
Would make it difficult to plan a clave with out of town guests for sure. I
have seen it so low you could walk across certain spots on this river and
never get your knees wet.

Chris

"JR" wrote in message
...
I'd be interested in a short (1-2 day) JD smallmouth clave sometime
before the summer steelhead season reaches full swing (in June, say).
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I guess we could put in at Service Creek fish to Twickenham Bridge. That
would be two days and the fishing/camping is pretty good along this stretch.
How does that sound to everyone interested?

Chris

Padishar Creel wrote:
"JR" wrote

I'd be interested in a short (1-2 day) JD smallmouth clave sometime
before the summer steelhead season reaches full swing (in June, say).
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I guess we could put in at Service Creek fish to Twickenham Bridge. That
would be two days and the fishing/camping is pretty good along this stretch.
How does that sound to everyone interested?

Actually, Chris, I've been thinking more about this, and looking through
Sheehan. If we do it in June, I might be able to swing a three-day
trip, maybe Service Creek to Clarno, or Twickenham to Clarno, depending
on how fast we want to float. Do you know how much the raft rental
would be for three days, including shuttle?

JR

"JR" said Actually, Chris, I've been thinking more about this, and looking
through
Sheehan. If we do it in June, I might be able to swing a three-day
trip, maybe Service Creek to Clarno, or Twickenham to Clarno, depending
on how fast we want to float. Do you know how much the raft rental
would be for three days, including shuttle?
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I have requested a pricing for raft and shuttle service from here. This
looks like a good hq site for the John Day Clave (if'n we go)

http://www.servicecreekstagestop.com/index.html

Chris

JR here is the email I got back from Service Creek...I will post it for
everyone that may have an interest:

raft rentals are $75.00 per day. shuttle price sc-tw $40.00, sc-clarno
$50.00 and Tw -clarno $65.00 We have not received much snow pack so far, so
the later you schedule,
the water will be lower and will dictate which float you can make and how
long it will take. if the water is too low, there are several shorter floats
above service creek that make good day floats for fishing etc .many folks
stay in the lodge and do different day trips so give us a call at 541
468-3331 and we can discuss your options thanks Iana

"JR" wrote in message
...
Padishar Creel wrote:
Just putting my toe in the water, but would there be any interest in a
John
Day River, Oregon smallmouth float trip clave thingee?

I'd be interested in a short (1-2 day) JD smallmouth clave sometime
before the summer steelhead season reaches full swing (in June, say).
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That would be tough based upon my research. It looks like three days
between takeout points if I read the literature correctly. Surely, you can
get an extra day? I hope!

http://www.or.blm.gov/Prineville/Joh...ation-Boating%
209-23-04.pdf

Chris

I'd be interested I could even rent a drift boat, but have not experience
rowing. Someone would have to do that.



"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Just putting my toe in the water, but would there be any interest in a
John
Day River, Oregon smallmouth float trip clave thingee? (I believe we can
rent rafts/pontoon boats for such an event, but I will need to check, IF
there is any interest, this is a calm float thing with very few rapids, so
canoes work well too) A few of us Oregonian types may be pursuaded to act
as Clavemeisters for such an experience.

Here is a taken from a website about the fishery: Beginning in the Blue
Mountains and flowing north to the Columbia, the John Day is the second
longest free-flowing stream in the U.S, and is protected as a "Wild and
Scenic" river under the Oregon Scenic Waterways Act. In 1971,
Seventy-five
Smallmouth Bass were introduced to the river. Since then, they have
flourished! The John Day River is arguably the best Smallmouth Bass water
in
the country. The season is at its peak from late May to early August; it's
quite common for anglers to hook 75+ fish per rod per day. Fish average
from
8"-12", with larger fish in the 18"-20" range.

Chris

"gary" wrote in message
.net...
I'd be interested I could even rent a drift boat, but have not experience
rowing. Someone would have to do that.
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If we get this off the ground I am pretty sure we have plenty of drift boats
available. Our challenge will be whether we will have enough water to float
a driftboat or not. It will be difficult to plan ahead to use driftboats,
but almost certainly we could do this with pontoon boats/canoes.. From what
I have been able to learn it will all depend on the amount of snowpack and
rainfall from now til June.

Chris

As expected the few guides I spoke with at the Sportsman's Show agreed
that May might be the best time to go this year. A lot will depend of
course on how much (if any) last winter/early Spring storms we get out
here......

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 03:21:10 GMT, "gary" wrote:

I'd be interested I could even rent a drift boat, but have not experience
rowing. Someone would have to do that.



"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Just putting my toe in the water, but would there be any interest in a
John
Day River, Oregon smallmouth float trip clave thingee? (I believe we can
rent rafts/pontoon boats for such an event, but I will need to check, IF
there is any interest, this is a calm float thing with very few rapids, so
canoes work well too) A few of us Oregonian types may be pursuaded to act
as Clavemeisters for such an experience.

Here is a taken from a website about the fishery: Beginning in the Blue
Mountains and flowing north to the Columbia, the John Day is the second
longest free-flowing stream in the U.S, and is protected as a "Wild and
Scenic" river under the Oregon Scenic Waterways Act. In 1971,
Seventy-five
Smallmouth Bass were introduced to the river. Since then, they have
flourished! The John Day River is arguably the best Smallmouth Bass water
in
the country. The season is at its peak from late May to early August; it's
quite common for anglers to hook 75+ fish per rod per day. Fish average
from
8"-12", with larger fish in the 18"-20" range.

Chris

I heard on the radio today that Oregon has between 19% and 23% of the normal
snow pack for this time of the year. More bad news is that the freezing
level is going up to 10,000 feet and it will be raining this weekend melting
even more. Since the John is not a tailwater fishery and the levels are at
the mercy of the farmers, snowpack and rainfall, we may be in for some
challenges for out trip in June.

Just keeping you updated

Chris