John Day River Smallmouth Clave?

"Padishar Creel" wrote in
:

I heard on the radio today that Oregon has between 19% and 23% of the
normal snow pack for this time of the year. More bad news is that the
freezing level is going up to 10,000 feet and it will be raining this
weekend melting even more. Since the John is not a tailwater fishery
and the levels are at the mercy of the farmers, snowpack and rainfall,
we may be in for some challenges for out trip in June.

Just keeping you updated

....thanks Chris, I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this trip.

Frank

Padishar Creel wrote:
I heard on the radio today that Oregon has between 19% and 23% of the normal
snow pack for this time of the year. More bad news is that the freezing
level is going up to 10,000 feet and it will be raining this weekend melting
even more. Since the John is not a tailwater fishery and the levels are at
the mercy of the farmers, snowpack and rainfall, we may be in for some
challenges for out trip in June.

We may want to aim for a date as early in June as possible if the snow
situation stays the same. Although late May, early June is the most
crowded time of year (even in normal years, hard boats have a hard time
much later than that), it may be best to err on the side of caution...

JR

If present weather conditions continue (very little snowpack) I'd
plan on late in May or even a bit earlier....

Stan

On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:41:17 -0800, JR wrote:

Padishar Creel wrote:
I heard on the radio today that Oregon has between 19% and 23% of the normal
snow pack for this time of the year. More bad news is that the freezing
level is going up to 10,000 feet and it will be raining this weekend melting
even more. Since the John is not a tailwater fishery and the levels are at
the mercy of the farmers, snowpack and rainfall, we may be in for some
challenges for out trip in June.

We may want to aim for a date as early in June as possible if the snow
situation stays the same. Although late May, early June is the most
crowded time of year (even in normal years, hard boats have a hard time
much later than that), it may be best to err on the side of caution...

JR

(Stan) wrote in
:

If present weather conditions continue (very little snowpack) I'd
plan on late in May or even a bit earlier....
We may want to aim for a date as early in June as possible if the snow
situation stays the same. Although late May, early June is the most
crowded time of year (even in normal years, hard boats have a hard
time much later than that), it may be best to err on the side of
caution...

JR

....I have written Arrowhead Adventures asking those folks what their
advice would be given the low snowpack this year. Don't know what the
reply will be, but hey, it can't hurt to get feedback from the experts. I
ran across an interesting place in Fossil, OR called the Service Creek
Stagestop who will pre-position your vehicle where you want it and begin
the float from their establishment. If you want pure luxury on a float of
the John Day, Arrowhead Adventures only charges $995 for a 3 day float,
providing everything except a sleeping bag and your personal items.
(http://www.arrowheadadventures.com/bass2.html) and the outfit at Service
Creek is (http://www.servicecreekstagestop.com/index.html) I am really
pumped on going this year and could make it in either May or preferably,
the 1st week of June if conditions allow for that. (and I get resettled
in my house by then) I have posted a picture of a John Day river smallie
on abpf, this guy would put a serious bend in my kpos!

Frank Church

I'm heading up to the PNW Sportsman's Show in Portland this week.
Usually, there is a John Day guide or 2 there. I'm going to pump them
to see what they think about the best time to go this year....


On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:24:40 GMT, Frank Church
wrote:

(Stan) wrote in
:

If present weather conditions continue (very little snowpack) I'd
plan on late in May or even a bit earlier....
We may want to aim for a date as early in June as possible if the snow
situation stays the same. Although late May, early June is the most
crowded time of year (even in normal years, hard boats have a hard
time much later than that), it may be best to err on the side of
caution...

JR

...I have written Arrowhead Adventures asking those folks what their
advice would be given the low snowpack this year. Don't know what the
reply will be, but hey, it can't hurt to get feedback from the experts. I
ran across an interesting place in Fossil, OR called the Service Creek
Stagestop who will pre-position your vehicle where you want it and begin
the float from their establishment. If you want pure luxury on a float of
the John Day, Arrowhead Adventures only charges $995 for a 3 day float,
providing everything except a sleeping bag and your personal items.
(http://www.arrowheadadventures.com/bass2.html) and the outfit at Service
Creek is (http://www.servicecreekstagestop.com/index.html) I am really
pumped on going this year and could make it in either May or preferably,
the 1st week of June if conditions allow for that. (and I get resettled
in my house by then) I have posted a picture of a John Day river smallie
on abpf, this guy would put a serious bend in my kpos!

Frank Church

Is this trip still being planned????


On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 11:24:40 GMT, Frank Church
wrote:

(Stan) wrote in
:

If present weather conditions continue (very little snowpack) I'd
plan on late in May or even a bit earlier....
We may want to aim for a date as early in June as possible if the snow
situation stays the same. Although late May, early June is the most
crowded time of year (even in normal years, hard boats have a hard
time much later than that), it may be best to err on the side of
caution...

JR

...I have written Arrowhead Adventures asking those folks what their
advice would be given the low snowpack this year. Don't know what the
reply will be, but hey, it can't hurt to get feedback from the experts. I
ran across an interesting place in Fossil, OR called the Service Creek
Stagestop who will pre-position your vehicle where you want it and begin
the float from their establishment. If you want pure luxury on a float of
the John Day, Arrowhead Adventures only charges $995 for a 3 day float,
providing everything except a sleeping bag and your personal items.
(http://www.arrowheadadventures.com/bass2.html) and the outfit at Service
Creek is (http://www.servicecreekstagestop.com/index.html) I am really
pumped on going this year and could make it in either May or preferably,
the 1st week of June if conditions allow for that. (and I get resettled
in my house by then) I have posted a picture of a John Day river smallie
on abpf, this guy would put a serious bend in my kpos!

Frank Church

I posted a picture on ABPF of a stream in the upper John Day River watershed
along with this comment: This small stream holds some improbably large trout
and this picture was taken in January 2005. Normally, this stream would
have anywhere from 1 to 4 feet of snow on its banks this time of year. I
believe we are in for a very low water spring/summer here in the Pacific NW!
So perhaps the earlier we can do the John Day River Clave thing the better?

Chris

"Padishar Creel" wrote in
:

I posted a picture on ABPF of a stream in the upper John Day River
watershed along with this comment: This small stream holds some
improbably large trout and this picture was taken in January 2005.
Normally, this stream would have anywhere from 1 to 4 feet of snow on
its banks this time of year. I believe we are in for a very low water
spring/summer here in the Pacific NW! So perhaps the earlier we can do
the John Day River Clave thing the better?

....kinda looks that way now Chris, keepin' my fingers crossed.

Frank Sr.