Rate these FUJI guides please.

Rick Clunn BPS Signature $99 - SiC Guides, and the seems to be in your
budget range.

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Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

As a rod builder I have not used hardloy guides on a rod for the best part
of seven yrs. They are prone to breaking,
and cracking . Ok if you manufacture 100's of thousands of rods. But bad
from my point of veiw ,when I build maybe a 100 rods a yr.

Hardloy cannot take the punishment of the superlines. and the alconite
guides are only guaranteed to hold up against
Power Pro. Or so Power Pro says!

So for the money alconite guides are the best deal so far!
But I am leaning towards the new holographic guides for some rods. These
also use a cubic zerconia (sp) guide insert.

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"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Craig Baugher" wrote in message
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Rick Clunn BPS Signature $99 - SiC Guides, and the seems to be in your
budget range.

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Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

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From: (Craig=A0Baugher)
Rick Clunn BPS Signature $99 - SiC Guides, and the seems to be in your
budget range.
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Is this the one you mention cause its on sale for $50 :-) Rick Clunn
IM8 w/sic guides. I just put this on my list to check out at the big BPS
sale. Thank You.

http://www.basspro-shops.com/servlet...d=3D44293&hva=
rTarget=3Dsearch&cmCat=3DSearchResults

They are probably American Tackle guides with a Zirconia (Alconite) ceramic
coated with Titanium Oxide to get the blue color, it should make the guides
very corrosion resistant, many people on the gulf use their Mag Bass rods on
reds and snook among other species.
If you give your rods a freshwater washdown when you come in I haven't had a
problem with the black Fujis, gold frames and than chrome frames seem to
corrode or lose their finish first.

IMO good quailty Hardloy giudes are just fine and will last a life time
for bass fishing..

"good quality Hardloy guides"..

The word 'Hardloy' is to Quality as 'Good' is to Bad.

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Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!

Why do you say Hardloy is "bad"? Have you had a bad experience?

Fuji not the only company that makes good guides. Pac Bay, Forecast,
American Tackle, H&H, Perfection, Aftco among others are also in the market.

Easy test for guides, take yourself a piece of 6 to 10 lb test mono with you
when you step into the store. Run it thru a guide on the rod you like and
saw it back and forth quickly under a little tension, you will soon see
which guides are superior.

If it's not important than why did they invent the roller guide?

Don't expect the stainless/titanium ring guide to take to many line passes
thru it until the line melts flat or breaks.

Hardloy, Aluminum Oxide is the same basic stuff, it got us away from the
above guides over 30 years ago.

Alconite is a Zirconia material and stronger and better heat disipation, a
little slicker, and if you notice the inside diameter for each sized ring is
a little larger than Hardloy guides. This is because the material is more
reliable and stronger the Hardloy so they don't have to use as much. The
ring to stainless guide attachment is also better on this guide.

SiC is good stuff, bring a lunch if you do the guide /line test it will take
a lot of work and may never break, due to much better heat disipation.
qualities. The titanium, not titanium finished, guides are lighter and
stronger and extremely corrosion resistant. You won't see them soon on a
Wally World rod. About a $100 plus a set for a longer rod.

You forgot Cermet, got $25 plus a guide?

sphipps, what is the mono test going to prove? also I have never seen a
roller guide on a bass fishing rod..have you? Is it all about heat? I
just don't see where line will generate much heat bass fishing..

You are right, but I don't always use my bass rods on bass, sometimes I use
them on the Gulf of Mexico, I use my smallmouth rod to cast to bonefish &
troll for big rainbows and brown trout that can reach 20 lbs, but more
likely will be 5 to say 12 lbs on light line. More accurately I use my
bonefish rod on smallmouth and finesse LM sometimes. Have also caught a
steelhead and Coho salmon on it from time to time and one 25 lb Chinook.
Was just trying to give you a visual reference to the different materials
and the reasons they may cost more.
Have a 30 lb rated boat rod with Fuji BHVLG Hardloy guides on it for about
20 years now, caught lots of fish on it in Florida when I lived there and
oversized 100 plus lb sturgeon on it now, they are just fine and I've had 80
lb Western Tuf-Line on the reel for maybe 12 of those years, with no ill
effects.