The end of the line.

Conan The Librarian wrote:

know what you mean. The next thing you know, folks will be using
graphite rods, nylon leaders and plastic flylines.

Just what is this sport coming to?

rw wrote:

Nothing is sacred.

I expected a answer along this line from you (that's not an attack) but
if take a step back and re-read some of your own posts, even to you
some things are sacred. It may be some political or moral idea, another
area outside of fishing, or whatever else floats your boat. The good
librarian residing in Texas has different standards for his woodworking
tools than his flies and rods. Me, I think tradition in trout fishing
is sacred. While foam bodies, plastic eggs, and synthetic posts may be
easier to tie; to me tradition counts for something and I wish they
(the synthetics)could be outlawed in a trout fly.

Similar to fly fishing for warm water fish IMO, I've been out probably
50-60 times since Spring fishing for bass and bream with a fly rod this
year. I only slowed it down recently because I broke my foot helping a
neighbor move a huge china cabinet and it just recently healed. It was
fun, I rarely got skunked and actually had a few small mouth and big
bream put up a halfway decent fight on the three and four weights. It's
fishing, but the tackle doesn't really match the species in a
traditional sense and I use the fly rod more than anything else just to
enjoy the stroke of casting and to keep in practice for the few times I
can go chase a trout. Trout being the reason I took up fly fishing in
the first place. And that's not a knock on those who prefer those
species with a fly rod.

I suppose you use the leatherman as a vice too?

Let a million flowers bloom.

Only until they get covered with all the discarded synthetics eh?

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Whether or not is was long ago depends in part on where you're looking
from.

Very true, not living through that time, it's difficult for me to realize
there was segregation on buses not that long ago...

Many of us here in ROFF were born before the incident. For those who
remember it (I thought I did, but looking at the date proves it highly
unlikely) it must seem a lot further in the past than anything they have
to look forward to is in the future.

I guess that is true for me as well, it's all relative I suppose.

Anyway, it appears that even in death Ms. Parks hasn't lost her ability to
act as a catalyst in stirring up a bit of a ruckus......however
unwittingly. Beyond the familiar broad outlines of her story, I know very
little about her.......but I like to think that the tempest brewing in our
little teacup would bring a smile to her lips.

She's going out with a bang on ROFF...

JT

Wayne Knight wrote:
rw wrote:


Nothing is sacred.


I expected a answer along this line from you (that's not an attack) but
if take a step back and re-read some of your own posts, even to you
some things are sacred.

Nothing is sacred to me, because Im an atheist, but I have preferences
like anyone else.

The good
librarian residing in Texas has different standards for his woodworking
tools than his flies and rods. Me, I think tradition in trout fishing
is sacred. While foam bodies, plastic eggs, and synthetic posts may be
easier to tie; to me tradition counts for something and I wish they
(the synthetics)could be outlawed in a trout fly.

It's not the "easier to tie" aspect that interests me -- it's the
creative use of new materials to make better imitations or better
attractors.

If you restricted yourself to "natural" materials with sal****er flies,
you'd be at a serious disadvantage. For trout flies it probably doesn't
matter that much, if you discount the "easier to tie" aspect. :-)


I suppose you use the leatherman as a vice too?

I use a Renzetti Sal****er Traveler. Love it. It can handle a huge range
of hook sizes.

Take care of that foot, Wayne.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wayne Knight wrote:

rw wrote:

Nothing is sacred.

I expected a answer along this line from you (that's not an attack) but
if take a step back and re-read some of your own posts, even to you
some things are sacred. It may be some political or moral idea, another
area outside of fishing, or whatever else floats your boat. The good
librarian residing in Texas has different standards for his woodworking
tools than his flies and rods. Me, I think tradition in trout fishing
is sacred. While foam bodies, plastic eggs, and synthetic posts may be
easier to tie; to me tradition counts for something and I wish they
(the synthetics)could be outlawed in a trout fly.

This made me stop and think about how I approach woodworking vs. fly
fishing. I think it can be summed up by offering this aside: When I
first started woodworking, I got caught up in the powertool side of
things. As I started to make more things, I realized that I was
spending too much of my time setting up jigs and too little actually
*working* wood.

Gradually I started honing (no pun intended) my handtool skills
until I felt confident I could do all of the tasks necessary by hand. I
enjoyed the process more, and I consider myself a more well-rounded
woodworker. This "de-evolution" was only possible because I became a
better woodworker.

With fly fishing, I'm still in a relative newbie state; I don't
consider myself to have learned enough about it to be able to settle
into the "right" way for me. I fully intend to get my hands on a bamboo
rod, silk line and horsehair leader (just kidding about the last one)
and see if that really is the path I want to follow.

With tying, I've got decent skills, but due to the majority of my
fishing being warm water, I am currently not locked in to a Catskill
dries or nothing style of tying/fishing. Maybe some day I'll live on a
trout stream and devolve to that point. Only time will tell. :-)

As for the issue of synthetics for parachute posts -- I use them
because I can find a wide variety of easily visible colors; the post is
just for me to sight the fly. I have some arctic fox hair dyed
chartreuse that I've played around a bit with. Would that be OK from a
purist standpoint since it's natural? :-)


Chuck Vance

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:50:07 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:

JR wrote:

Daniel-San wrote:

I can't figure out if I enjoy this sewer of a NG or loathe it.


Wiser to do both than to wallow in indecision.



oooh... i like that advice.

oblomov.

Aw-w-w-r-right - cocktails! Na zdorovye!

ITYWIMIYBMAD,
R

Wayne Knight wrote:

If you're going to tie parachutes use hair for the posts the way the
good Lord intended.

Wait. Did a political thread just turn into a thread about fly tying?
Ain't it 'posta be the other way around??

If you're going to tie parachutes use hair for the posts the way the
good Lord intended.

Wait. Did a political thread just turn into a thread about fly tying?
Ain't it 'posta be the other way around??

Okay, call the Pope. We have our first miracle that we can attribute to Ms
Parks. Do Methodists have saints?

--
Frank Reid
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"Frank Reid" ten.tsacmoc@diersicnarf schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
If you're going to tie parachutes use hair for the posts the way the
good Lord intended.

Wait. Did a political thread just turn into a thread about fly tying?
Ain't it 'posta be the other way around??

Okay, call the Pope. We have our first miracle that we can attribute to
Ms Parks. Do Methodists have saints?

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply


ROFF works in mysterious ways.

http://www.materialreligion.org/journal/saints.html

TL
MC

wrote:

Wait. Did a political thread just turn into a thread about fly tying?
Ain't it 'posta be the other way around??

It was more a dig on his choice of materials than a discussion about
fly tying. As such it remains an appropriate ROFF posting, IMO.