TOM KIRKMAN, RODBUILDING.ORG BB, MY DECEMBER 1,2003 POST, ETHICS

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:18:56 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


"Bluestone" wrote in message
. com...
lid wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:58:39 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


Here, here! All I've been able to gather from this discourse is that
SOMEONE
runs a moderated bulletin board and SOMEONE ELSE is ****ed because he
moderated
it. Go figure.


~~~~Cyli, you gathered incorrect, carry on

Yeah, cyli is not really very observant. ;-)


Thank you, Tim.

Bluestone, you can't even figure out your own newsreader. It's more
knowledgeable than you are. HINT: that was not me who said that.

Maybe you should learn your newsreader, the Web, and the 'Net before
you post again.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

for those who don't have it already, here's the main link to
archives...pleasant diversions. frank r should read the "a fine art"
series.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/ligh...e/archive.html

jeff

David Snedeker wrote:

"Bluestone" wrote in message
om...


Wolfy, calm down, take your meds for god sakes.



Never will happen alas.



eerie...kinda reminds me of what they tried to do to ol elwood p. dowd.

jeff (i'll have two martinis, bartender)

eerie...kinda reminds me of what they tried to do to ol elwood p. dowd.
jeff (i'll have two martinis, bartender)

Wouldn't you rather make that a Harvey Wallbanger?

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

I found a good deal for rod support roller o-rings at C & G Tackle
Outlet, which are
selling for fifty cents ($.50) less than Renzetti's current price.
Renzetti is
'Kirkman's sponsor'; C & G Tackle Outlet can more than likely be
termed: 'less
than Kirkman's sponsor', as i have been summarily informed.

When i posted this information on rodbuilding.org, Kirkman removed my
post.
Many posts with various views followed: Kirkman removed them all, and
sent me the following email:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Gary,

The owner of C&G Tackle has a history of attacking me and spreading
rumors
and falsehoods designed expressly to harm RodMaker Magazine and
RodBuilding.org. He is free to do that, but I will not provide him
with
the means to do so. I spent much time promoting his former companies,
Clemens Tackle and RodCrafters and was repaid by his distasteful
conduct.

I will not go into this any further. I am the owner of
Rodbuilding.org
and
have 100% authority on what can, and cannot, be posted there. My
record
and work on behalf of the rod building industry is beyond reproach. I
will
not allow any group or individual to destroy what I have done on
behalf
of
the rod building craft.

It is also important that I protect and promote those companies who
have
been willing to foot the bill to provide what most builders feel is a
truly
excellent site. It isn't free - somebody has to pay for it and when
non-sponsors take an unfair advantage in promoting their products on a
board that others are paying for, I will put my foot down.


Sincerely,

Tom Kirkman"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~

I find your email to be ambiguous hyperbole. I am not interested
in your personal life, nor the soap operas or the seeming vendettas
which may abound therein; however, i am interested
in giving all rodcrafters the best information i have.

In addition, i have no wish to post something you find so abhorrent
on your bulletin board.

As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation. How far does one go to
censor a fifty cent
savings? One's sponsor would object?

Thank you in advance,

Sincerely,

bluestonerod

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
SNIP
As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.
SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.

MC

big sniperoo

Blue,

Get over it. You posted information harmful to the board owners business.
He censored it, as he has a right to. End of story. I don't see any big
rousing support for your 'cause' here. Or are you just a crank in general,
and now want to bring your pain-in-the-ass attitude to us, most of whom
don't build rods anyways? In that last part you're succeeding. However, I
hear the plonks echoing across the 'net as you lose your potential audience.
Oops, there goes mine!

--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...
"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
om...
SNIP
As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.
SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.
MC
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No one with any LOYALTY to sharing information would be happy!
The BB site ,rodbuilding.org was placed there simply to help and
inform the Rod Builders ,paid by the sponsors for Rod Builders to
share and answer as to ask questions ,which i'm sure you haven't read
the rules Mr.Connor ,or it seems as.
Its evident that Mr.Kirkman was not worried about any Rod Builder
obtaining
a lower price or knowledge(pertaining to "O" rings) this is clear ,the
point to all this has nothing to do with sponsors but a reflection
that two people don't get along with each other so stated in Mr.
Kirkman's email ,and so be it Kirkman damn the knowledgeable post.
Nothing to do with sponsors just simply Kirkman ,its clear that the
dept of the original post is misunderstood by many as it is for you
Sir....Your ad hominem arguement as your vociferous rants reflects in
reality who you are Mr.Connor.


Sincerely,
bluestonerod

Bluestone wrote:
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
.com...
SNIP

As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.

SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.
MC

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No one with any LOYALTY to sharing information would be happy!
The BB site ,rodbuilding.org was placed there simply to help and
inform the Rod Builders ,paid by the sponsors for Rod Builders to
share and answer as to ask questions ,which i'm sure you haven't read
the rules Mr.Connor ,or it seems as.
Its evident that Mr.Kirkman was not worried about any Rod Builder
obtaining
a lower price or knowledge(pertaining to "O" rings) this is clear ,the
point to all this has nothing to do with sponsors but a reflection
that two people don't get along with each other so stated in Mr.
Kirkman's email ,and so be it Kirkman damn the knowledgeable post.
Nothing to do with sponsors just simply Kirkman ,its clear that the
dept of the original post is misunderstood by many as it is for you
Sir....Your ad hominem arguement as your vociferous rants reflects in
reality who you are Mr.Connor.


Sincerely,
bluestonerod


~~~~~~~~~~~~

This entire equation might be reduced to:

bluestonerod = dickhead

It is the opinion and observation of this gentle reader that Messr.
bluestonerod has made this quite obvious by his incessant whining,
blathering (and unending) posts, to date, but I felt obliged to
illuminate the basic solution.



Messr. bluestone,

Your points have been duly recorded. Thank you for your time and effort
in bringing this invaluable subject to the attention of this group.
Certainly, any number of the many thousands of readers have saved
millions in the coinage of their respective realms through the critical
information that you have, so generously, provided. No doubt, the
provenance of the financial integrity of the entire free world....and
beyond....turns on your every thought and pronouncement. I am forever
indebted and I'm sure that the thousands of other gentle readers will
concur. Certainly, every single person beneficially affected will
summon the heralds in recognition of the value of your worthy efforts.
Indeed, it is the first thing on my mind.


And may I say, in the most cavalier fashion...thanks and best regards.

With all due respect,

ihaveanameanditsnotbluestoneroditstom

a-happy-up-yours wrote in message ink.net...
Bluestone wrote:
"Mike Connor" Mike-Connor wrote in message ws.com...

"Bluestone" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
.com...
SNIP

As a newcomer to boards and newsgroups, (though i have
been building rods and teaching rodbuilding for over 20 yrs), i would
appreciate
all relevant responses to this situation.

SNIP

You got plenty, but you chose to ignore them. Mr. Kirkman is beyond
reproach, his explanations were simple and honest, and you are simply
interested in **** stirring, in the hope of damaging him. More than enough
people have told you so, and still you refuse to accept the evidence. You
are not only stupid, but recalcitrant as well.
MC

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No one with any LOYALTY to sharing information would be happy!
The BB site ,rodbuilding.org was placed there simply to help and
inform the Rod Builders ,paid by the sponsors for Rod Builders to
share and answer as to ask questions ,which i'm sure you haven't read
the rules Mr.Connor ,or it seems as.
Its evident that Mr.Kirkman was not worried about any Rod Builder
obtaining
a lower price or knowledge(pertaining to "O" rings) this is clear ,the
point to all this has nothing to do with sponsors but a reflection
that two people don't get along with each other so stated in Mr.
Kirkman's email ,and so be it Kirkman damn the knowledgeable post.
Nothing to do with sponsors just simply Kirkman ,its clear that the
dept of the original post is misunderstood by many as it is for you
Sir....Your ad hominem arguement as your vociferous rants reflects in
reality who you are Mr.Connor.


Sincerely,
bluestonerod


~~~~~~~~~~~~

This entire equation might be reduced to:

bluestonerod = dickhead

It is the opinion and observation of this gentle reader that Messr.
bluestonerod has made this quite obvious by his incessant whining,
blathering (and unending) posts, to date, but I felt obliged to
illuminate the basic solution.



Messr. bluestone,

Your points have been duly recorded. Thank you for your time and effort
in bringing this invaluable subject to the attention of this group.
Certainly, any number of the many thousands of readers have saved
millions in the coinage of their respective realms through the critical
information that you have, so generously, provided. No doubt, the
provenance of the financial integrity of the entire free world....and
beyond....turns on your every thought and pronouncement. I am forever
indebted and I'm sure that the thousands of other gentle readers will
concur. Certainly, every single person beneficially affected will
summon the heralds in recognition of the value of your worthy efforts.
Indeed, it is the first thing on my mind.


And may I say, in the most cavalier fashion...thanks and best regards.

With all due respect,

ihaveanameanditsnotbluestoneroditstom

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lets try again ,boisterous blatant.

Noted for the record ,that a-happy-up-yours ,AKA tom ,makes a valid
point on how well his time is used ,nothing to do with said subject or
original post
but part of the tom puppethand gang."THE TRUTH HURTS".



bluestonerod