So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "up his leg," and...

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:22:56 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

No matter how many times the Swiftboating of Kerry is proven
to be a pack of despicable lies some wingnuts will repeat it
as truth anyway.


Who said anything about Swiftboats?

Swiftboating is now a verb in American English defined as
repeating despicable lies about someone, usually a politician,
over and over again.

I am talking about the lies he
*testified* to, under oath, before Congress. I am talking about his
trip to Paris to secretly meet with the deligation from North Vie Nam
*while in uniform*. I am talking about his medals that he threw over
the fence. All of these are acts of a traitorous pig, and you praise
him simply because he is a liberal Democrat.

No, I praise him because he's a true patriot, not some sort
of blind jingo.

If he was a Republican,
you would be on him like white on rice.

"I am a black criminal and I have performed the deeds of an air pirate.
I almost died and the Vietnamese people saved my life, thanks to the
doctors."
-- John McCain's signed confession given while a POW

So in Louie's world McCain is a traitor ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

wrote in message
...
Which
brings us back to a paraphrasing of my question: just what kind of pol
is this sumbitch, what did that piece of **** Kennedy get out of the
deal, and just bad is it gonna wind up ****ing _me_?

Rick, can I put out the possibility that you are overanalyzing this? From a
purely partisan politics standpoint, perhaps old Teddy calculated that
Hillary can cause the Republicans to suddenly get united, in a way Obama
can't. Knowing it will take a wave of support to keep the party from
nominating Hillary, he may have gambled on the path most likely to sweep
more Dems into office, without any big-time tradeoffs. Certainly, his
political goals don't differ so much from Obamas as to necessitate a 'deal
with the devil', and in recent years, Kennedy has been a rare example of
trying to work deals between GOP and Dem groups.
Tom

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:13:37 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

wrote in message
If had been just Caroline with a little jungle fever

Racist.

Oooo-kay....how is that "racist?" It's a pretty well accepted term,
made pretty much mainstream by a black guy, that pretty much precisely
fits the people in question.

R

Joe F.

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
So did the US evacuation of the Bin Laden family when every other
nonmilitary flight was grounded.

oh, sure, Scott....jump on the easy exampleg!
Tom
p.s. Why is it that that event hasn't been questioned more?

"Tom Littleton" wrote in news:fy_tj.21643$s33.3609
@trndny06:


p.s. Why is it that that event hasn't been questioned more?


The first chapter of one of Michael Moore's books deals extensively with
this. The "his family had no involvement with bin Laden" just holds zero
water.

It hasn't been investigated, as NOTHING (aside from the Plame leak, where a
convenient scapegoat was hung out to dry) has been investigated, including
whether the launching of a war thats killed tens of thousands was built on
a pack of systematic lies (you'd think we'd start there, wouldn't you) or
what citizens has the US been spying on without court approval, or have
signing statements violated separation of powers, etc.




--
Scott
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:45:18 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

funny, the Fox link doesn't work, and there is an obvious disclaimer that
the office pictured is not affiliated with the campaign of Obama. Sounds
like the BS machine is trying to start up anew against Obama from the right,
but I think they might find his people ready to deal with it better than
Kerry did......
Tom


It's much ado about nothing. Some freelancer street-level vol - not at
an actual Obama HQ - at some sideshow office not actually connected with
the campaign - had a Cuban flag with "the" Che pic on it over her desk.
A newscrew was there. Of course they got a shot of it. She was a
dumbass, but it is about as relevant to Obama (and newsworthy with real
regard to Obama) as the fact that someone, somewhere in his campaign
once got a speeding ticket. Anyone who makes more out of it is an idiot
- IOW, if I listened to Mush Limpdick or Crazy Coulter, I'd expect to
hear him babbling and her shrieking about it for about a week...

TC,
R

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:51:48 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

So in Louie's world McCain is a traitor ?

No. Because we know it was given under duress, probably after a
torture session.

Kerry *LIED*, *under oath* before Congress. He lied continuously
during that period. To hell with the Swiftboat thingy. I am talking
about behavior that gave comfort to our enemy. Regardless how you
felt about that war, to pull a Jane Fonda only put more of our men in
danger. Why can't you see that, Ken?

Dave

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:45:18 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

unny, the Fox link doesn't work, and there is an obvious disclaimer that
the office pictured is not affiliated with the campaign of Obama. Sounds
like the BS machine is trying to start up anew against Obama from the right,
but I think they might find his people ready to deal with it better than
Kerry did....

Funny, I just looked at it and it worked fine.

The speaker says that the office will be full of paid workers within a
week. One would hope they take down the Che poster, wot?

Dave

On 17 Feb 2008 17:49:17 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

So did the US evacuation of the Bin Laden family when every other
nonmilitary flight was grounded.

You're reaching, Scott. Our fight is not with his family.

Dave

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:40:59 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
.. .
Tom, given the choice, most folks couldn't vote for Kerry.

assuming 'most' to mean 51%, you are correct.
Tom

....still, I don't think they were right to do so. A message should have
been sent at that point in the Bush presidency.


Bush received a larger percentage of the vote in 94 than Clinton ever
did. He beat Kerry. He is the president. Live with it for a few
more months. Then you can begin bitching about McCain. d;o)