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troutbum_mt wrote:
says... **** you, asshole! Oh. Wait a minute. Sorry. I got carried away. No worries Steve. Life is too short to waste being mad about something stupid. We'll share a couple of Fosters and/or "Steelies" once again over a few laughs. **** you, asshole! :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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You really deserve a better answer than that, Warren, so here it is. I know what you were getting at but was already two steps ahead of you. See below. Apologizing on ROFF is very easy. It's not dissimilar from jumping the queue into the National Guard -- a free ticket out of jail. Apologizing FOUR TIMES for EXACTLY the same thing must get easier with each repetition. I don't want Dave's apologies. They may be numerous, but they aren't sincere, and their sincerity seems to decrease with each repetition. I want him to think before he posts, and before he insults not me, which doesn't bother me, but before he insults proven patriots and heroes who happen to disagree with his political opinions. Yes, but you only propagate the tension by voicing such ideas and not forgiving. That could be exactly what you think, but saying so may not be the best course of action. Dave made an apology to you. Did your response of essentially "don't bother. You've done it before and so I basically don't accept" do more harm or good? Or would have something along the lines of "No problem Dave. Thanks for taking the time to apologize" been more appropriate? I see one as merely putting a person back on the defensive and only leading to more problems in the future while the latter deescalates the situation. By holding a grudge you are in essence limiting the possible actions of the other party down the road and only contributing to future conflicts. The later eases tensions which may alleviate some of the tensions that you hold that keep you from "liking" the other person. Very different from the scenario that I gave you the other night on the phone IMO. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
You are right, Ken, and I was wrong. I should know better than to get into a political discussion on roff. It just isn't the place, and like wayno says, it divides friends, something I never intended. .................. Well done. Hope you delurk relatively soon with some brookie & salmon tales. **** politics. g JR |
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![]() troutbum_mt wrote: says... May be time to waste my vote on one of the lesser parties. I plan to. that's the best news i've read in the past 5 minutes. i was worried you might cancel out my vote...g. snow warnings here again... you snow fellers have been sending us way too much cold weather. it's seriously affecting my weekend fishing frolics... |
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:36:30 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote: snow warnings here again... you snow fellers have been sending us way too much cold weather. it's seriously affecting my weekend fishing frolics... There's actually snow on the ground in Atlanta this morning. -- Charlie... |
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"rw" wrote in message
I don't want Dave's apologies. They may be numerous, but they aren't sincere, and their sincerity seems to decrease with each repetition. Although I'm guilty as hell on the OT Politics charge, I've made every attempt to avoid discussing specific people or personalities. I'm not an insult kind of guy, and for the most part, my friends don't need my character reference. I'm gonna break my own rule here. It is clear to me that Dave & I disagree on what's wrong with this country and what to do about it. It's also clear to me that both of our opinions are based on a love of what we individually perceive to be what's right about it. I've met Dave on more than one occasion, fished with him, dined with him, and talked with him. I've left my children alone with him, which is more than I'd allow for most of the reprobates here. Among the things about which I have little doubt is Dave's character and sincerity. Joe F. |
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Few people in WWII went a year where they
could be shot or had to shoot someome every day. If people were in combat a year the medals candy analogy is not realistic. BJConner 91B20, 36K20, 01B20 If people were assigned to line units and spent their year or 13 months constantly in the field, I have no problem with them receiving any citations and medals that they could garner. I knew and know folks who spent all their time on the line and came home with only the everyman medals. I also know people who spent all their time as REMFs and came home well decorated. The candy analogy holds better for officers who had a 6 month field, 6 month staff rotation in many cases so that they could get their ticket fully punched. Staff officers had better chances of having someone higher up notice their actions and write them up than the guys at company or platoon level. I can't really address the amount of line time people endured in WWII. You and I both know that units rotated up and back as they were available. OTOH, some of the folks island hopping were in the thick of it from the landing until the island was secured. Different times and places. -- Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69 Drowning flies to Dark Star http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm |
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![]() "rb608" wrote... "rw" wrote... I don't want Dave's apologies. They may be numerous, but they aren't sincere, and their sincerity seems to decrease with each repetition. Although I'm guilty as hell on the OT Politics charge, I've made every attempt to avoid discussing specific people or personalities. I'm not an insult kind of guy, and for the most part, my friends don't need my character reference. I'm gonna break my own rule here. You've been doing that a LOT lately. ;-) I'm glad you did. It is clear to me that Dave & I disagree on what's wrong with this country and what to do about it. It's also clear to me that both of our opinions are based on a love of what we individually perceive to be what's right about it. I've met Dave on more than one occasion, fished with him, dined with him, and talked with him. I've left my children alone with him, which is more than I'd allow for most of the reprobates here. Among the things about which I have little doubt is Dave's character and sincerity. The way I see it ( %-b~ ), Dave realizes his fault and wishes he had never written the personal insults. Isn't it better that he recognize this after the fact than not at all? I think so - good on ya, Dave. I've posted stuff here I wish I hadn't and have (hopefully) had my apology accepted. Should I screw up again, realize my bad and apologize, I would hope I could be forgiven again. To Dave - Place this note on your keyboard: Read three times, the third time after ten minutes, then choose send or cancel. ;-) To both Dave and Wayno - get yer asses back in gear and post away! -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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