The other adult beverage.....

So, while I appreciate discussions of the fine points and the arcana of food
and beverages (it's probably no secret that I love spending time in the
kitchen), and such talk is never out of place in any setting (ya gotta stop
fishing to eat and drink once in a while, right?), I've never really been a
great fan of hard liquors. I don't mind that talk of various single malt
whiskies crops up here from time to time, but it doesn't resonate for me.
Beer, I know something about, having sampled more than my share and even
brewed a bunch of my own for a few years, but I can't drink it
anymore.....gives me a headache every time. Wine, I like, but I've found
that I'm not interested enough to spend the time and money needed to learn
about it in depth. Besides, the ten dollar a box stuff works well enough
for my daily needs with supper.

No, my concern is really more for the other end of the day. For years now
(many years) I have been dissatisfied with the pitiful trash that passes for
coffee in this country. I've always known, of course, that something can be
done about it but never got around to doing it. That just changed.

One day last week, Becky stopped by with some freshly roasted and ground
Colombian caranavi. It got lost under a heap of something or other for a
day or two and then I brewed up a pot when it turned up again. Hey, this is
GOOD! Becky says talk to my dad, he sent me the roaster and a bunch of
coffee for Christmas. Becky's father has been roasting his own coffee for
25 or 30 years. He'd talked to me about it a couple of years ago but at
that time it just sounded like too much to get into in a life already
crowded with many other things. But now I'd tasted the result. It was time
to talk to Rodger again. So, Friday night I talked to him for about an hour
and ended up going he

http://coffeeproject.com/index.html

and ordering a roaster and a couple of pounds of coffee, Ethiopian harrar
and something listed just as Bolivian shade grown organic (I wanted the
caranavi but apparently it's only sold bundled with other things in some
sort of sampler).

This morning I roasted and brewed my first pot of the harrar. WOW!


Anyway, I've done a bit of research on line in the past couple of
days....there is a ton of stuff about coffee. But I'm wondering if anyone
else here has played with this and if so, I'd appreciate hearing about your
experiences, preferences, etc. If not, any true coffee lover should
definitely look into the do it yourself thing.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

One day last week, Becky stopped by with some freshly roasted and ground
Colombian caranavi.

You should get whole beans and grind your own as needed. Ground coffee
loses its freshness quickly. Keep it in the freezer in a sealed container.

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Wolfgang wrote:

One day last week, Becky stopped by with some freshly roasted and ground
Colombian caranavi.

You should get whole beans and grind your own as needed. Ground coffee
loses its freshness quickly. Keep it in the freezer in a sealed container.

O.k., I'll try to remember that. Thanks.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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One very important point to remember: DO NOT use the same coffee grinder for
your coffee beans that you use for mixing dubbing. : )

Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR

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One very important point to remember: DO NOT use the same coffee grinder
for your coffee beans that you use for mixing dubbing. : )

Check.....stick with the low fiber coffee!

Wolfgang
who will also not be using it for chilies.

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One very important point to remember: DO NOT use the same coffee grinder
for your coffee beans that you use for mixing dubbing. : )

Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR


how many tiers have made this error? raises hand and remembers the unique
aftertaste of squirrel hair
Tom

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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One very important point to remember: DO NOT use the same coffee grinder
for your coffee beans that you use for mixing dubbing. : )

Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR

how many tiers have made this error? raises hand and remembers the unique
aftertaste of squirrel hair
Tom

You need special coffee beans for fly-tying:

http://www.about-flyfishing.com/libr.../aa073102a.htm

Also, hairy coffee is one thing, but if you use ladies stockings for
straining dubbing, then don´t hang them up to dry afterwards in the
bathroom, where you good lady has also hung her stockings! If she
puts one of these on, she will almost immediately cease to be a "good
lady".

I have it on good authority that a hair shirt is merely a mild
nuisance in comparison!

MC

rw wrote:
Wolfgang wrote:

One day last week, Becky stopped by with some freshly roasted and
ground Colombian caranavi.


You should get whole beans and grind your own as needed. Ground coffee
loses its freshness quickly. Keep it in the freezer in a sealed container.


the freezer thing isn't a good idea in my opinion. seems to dry the
beans out more than locking in or preserving taste and freshness. most
of the coffee experts i've read are against the freezer ploy. you simply
need to roast the amount you'll grind and consume in 4 days to a
week...then keep the roasted beans in an air tight container at room
temps...and grind them as needed. i like the darker roasts with the
oils shining on the beans i'm going to grind.

the best cup is the first one...and i get it the moment the brew is
done. the longer the brew sits on the hotplate the more bitter it gets.

i'm currently hooked on the organic french roast arabica beans from the
rogers family company www.rogersfamilyco.com it's the best grocery
store whole bean product i've found (and i've tried a lot)...and always
has the fresh oils still on the beans when i open the bag.

mark pendergrast wrote an interesting book about coffee - "uncommon
grounds". you ought to get it.

jeff

jeff miller wrote:
rw wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:

One day last week, Becky stopped by with some freshly roasted and
ground Colombian caranavi.



You should get whole beans and grind your own as needed. Ground coffee
loses its freshness quickly. Keep it in the freezer in a sealed
container.


the freezer thing isn't a good idea in my opinion.

That's what the sea;ed container is for.

I have no interest in roasting my own beans, or growing them for that
matter.

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rw wrote:

jeff miller wrote:

rw wrote:

Wolfgang wrote:

One day last week, Becky stopped by with some freshly roasted and
ground Colombian caranavi.




You should get whole beans and grind your own as needed. Ground
coffee loses its freshness quickly. Keep it in the freezer in a
sealed container.


the freezer thing isn't a good idea in my opinion.


That's what the sea;ed container is for.

I have no interest in roasting my own beans, or growing them for that
matter.


i don't roast them either...though like flytying i reckon it would be
sportin a time or two just for the experience. but, i still think the
freezer is an unnecessary effort for roasted coffee beans...even in
sealed containers. i'm sure others agree with you.

jeff