Built in gravel guards.

Thomas Schreiber wrote:
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I just bought a pair of Cabelas Dry Plus waders. I returned them
after
trying them on. I didn't like the built in gravel guards. The
elastic
was so tight is made them hard to put on. Are all built in gravel
guards like that? Does everyone prefer built in gravel guards? I'm
thinking about ordering a pair of Simms Freestones instead and
using
detachable gravel guards.

I use Loop professional, and they have "built in" guards. I love
them, and
have never had any problems with them being to tight.

Do they have elastic around the cuff of the gravel guard? I think it
might be a better design if they didn't have elastic there. Maybe
string or velcro to tighten the cuff, but not elastic.

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Do they have elastic around the cuff of the gravel guard? I think it
might be a better design if they didn't have elastic there. Maybe
string or velcro to tighten the cuff, but not elastic.

Yes. And some nonslip material as well, so the gravelguard doesnt crawl up
the leg. And of course they've got a small "hook" to place on your shoelaces
too )

See more at http://www.looptackle.se/eng/index.htm


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" I don't care who's your father! Don't you walk on the water, here where
I'm fishin'! "

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I just bought a pair of Cabelas Dry Plus waders. I returned them after
trying them on. I didn't like the built in gravel guards. The elastic
was so tight is made them hard to put on. Are all built in gravel
guards like that? Does everyone prefer built in gravel guards? I'm
thinking about ordering a pair of Simms Freestones instead and using
detachable gravel guards.


Nice to hear that someone else had the same impression. My first waders also
had built-in guards, and I found them a real pain to get on and off. My
second pair had the detachable ones, with velcro at the back, but I lost one
of them while wading in moving water.

I replaced them with my cross-country ski gators! (I use past tense because
some ****wad stole all my gear in South Africa several years ago.) But the
solution was so excellent that I'm going to buy another pair of gators and
do it again.

They were an REI brand, lightweight nylon, very tight fitting around the
shoe (with a hook for the shoelaces), and with a high collar that fit
mid-calf. They had a zipper in the back, an elastic at the ankle, and a
slide-lock around the top. In addition to keeping *all* the gravel out of
the shoe, they also served to protect the lower part of the waders against
abrasion on rocks, or from snagging on brush while hiking. Also, the water
moved through them a little bit while wading, so any fine silt was
constantly washed out. And best of all (for this fat boy) is that they were
effortless to put on....I left them connected to my wading boots, and I just
slipped my foot into the boot, tied it, and zipped up the gator. In fact, I
bet that if some of you guys tried this, you would never go back to
velcro/elastic gravel guards again, and pretty soon the major manufacturers
would start making these. I mean, really, they worked that well.

YMWV
--riverman

riverman wrote:
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YMWV

Your Man in West Virginia?

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riverman wrote:
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YMWV

Your Man in West Virginia?


Your mileage won't vary.

:-)

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riverman wrote:
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YMWV

Your Man in West Virginia?


Your mileage won't vary.

:-)

riverman wrote:
Nice to hear that someone else had the same impression. My first
waders also
had built-in guards, and I found them a real pain to get on and off.
My
second pair had the detachable ones, with velcro at the back, but I
lost one
of them while wading in moving water.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I'm wondering if they would work better
if they just had a drawstring instead of elastic at the cuff.

I replaced them with my cross-country ski gators! (I use past tense
because
some ****wad stole all my gear in South Africa several years ago.)
But the
solution was so excellent that I'm going to buy another pair of
gators and
do it again.

They were an REI brand, lightweight nylon, very tight fitting around
the
shoe (with a hook for the shoelaces), and with a high collar that fit

mid-calf. They had a zipper in the back, an elastic at the ankle, and
a
slide-lock around the top. In addition to keeping *all* the gravel
out of
the shoe, they also served to protect the lower part of the waders
against
abrasion on rocks, or from snagging on brush while hiking. Also, the
water
moved through them a little bit while wading, so any fine silt was
constantly washed out. And best of all (for this fat boy) is that
they were
effortless to put on....I left them connected to my wading boots, and
I just
slipped my foot into the boot, tied it, and zipped up the gator. In
fact, I
bet that if some of you guys tried this, you would never go back to
velcro/elastic gravel guards again, and pretty soon the major
manufacturers
would start making these. I mean, really, they worked that well.

I checked the REI site and there are many different types, some are
over $80. Could you tell me exactly which pair you had?

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riverman wrote:
I bet that if some of you guys tried this, you would never go back to
velcro/elastic gravel guards again, and pretty soon the major
manufacturers
would start making these. I mean, really, they worked that well.

I checked the REI site and there are many different types, some are
over $80. Could you tell me exactly which pair you had?

Ahh, a taker. You're a wise person. :-)

My REI page won't open, and a search on EMS showed that they don't carry
what I had. But this site has something very close to it:
http://everestnews.altrec.com/shop/detail/4215/0

I noticed that the prices on this site were about half for the same item as
on EMS, so if you are into mail order, those are the babies: $28. The only
drawback to those is the supplex layer underneath, which could probably be
torn out if you wanted.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote

second pair had the detachable ones, with velcro at the back, but I lost
one of them while wading in moving water.



guards with velcro must have a lot of the stuff .... moving water will pull
them off, moving water AND weed beds will pull them off quickly

the CURRENT model from SIMMS seems to work fine ( after one full season of
using them ) but their older model with just two strips of velcro sucked, as
do some other brands I've seen .... look for velcro the entire length of the
guard, top to bottom, and damn strong, sticky velcro, at that

.....um ....... I must have some snow gaiters around someplace .... I wonder
where they would be

riverman wrote:
Nice to hear that someone else had the same impression. My first
waders also
had built-in guards, and I found them a real pain to get on and off.
My
second pair had the detachable ones, with velcro at the back, but I
lost one
of them while wading in moving water.

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I'm wondering if they would work better
if they just had a drawstring instead of elastic at the cuff.

I replaced them with my cross-country ski gators! (I use past tense
because
some ****wad stole all my gear in South Africa several years ago.)
But the
solution was so excellent that I'm going to buy another pair of
gators and
do it again.

They were an REI brand, lightweight nylon, very tight fitting around
the
shoe (with a hook for the shoelaces), and with a high collar that fit

mid-calf. They had a zipper in the back, an elastic at the ankle, and
a
slide-lock around the top. In addition to keeping *all* the gravel
out of
the shoe, they also served to protect the lower part of the waders
against
abrasion on rocks, or from snagging on brush while hiking. Also, the
water
moved through them a little bit while wading, so any fine silt was
constantly washed out. And best of all (for this fat boy) is that
they were
effortless to put on....I left them connected to my wading boots, and
I just
slipped my foot into the boot, tied it, and zipped up the gator. In
fact, I
bet that if some of you guys tried this, you would never go back to
velcro/elastic gravel guards again, and pretty soon the major
manufacturers
would start making these. I mean, really, they worked that well.

I checked the REI site and there are many different types, some are
over $80. Could you tell me exactly which pair you had?