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![]() "Jonathan Cook" wrote in message ... Jon. (who has _truly_ never done much for his country) You breath don't ya! Good enough for me--and lots of others, I'd bet! Mark |
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![]() "Jonathan Cook" wrote in message ... Dave, if no one ever protested in our country how would we ever know if we're still free enough to peacefully allow it? CUZ WE SAY SO......THAT'S HOW! I for one have never protested, nor ever served in the military, I've done both. They tend to long stretches of brainless tedium relieved by occasional bouts of ugliness. but I'll respect someone who believes strongly enough to do either. Too bad. Respect SHOULD be earned. Jon. (who has _truly_ never done much for his country) They do most for their country who go about their legitimate business and don't **** with their neighbors unnecessarily. Wolfgang who, being clueless about what he just set himself up for, sits back in blithe admiration of his own cleverness. |
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:44:17 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message I for one have never protested, nor ever served in the military, I've done both. They tend to long stretches of brainless tedium relieved by occasional bouts of ugliness. Yeah, well, Ratsfuror Goering, signing up to be the winch polisher and comfort girl on a BUSL so you can kill gooks doesn't exactly put you on the military level of Alexander the Great (or even the lesser-known Alexander the Incompetent Ignoramus), and whining about Ken, me, et al on ROFF doesn't exactly make you Stokely Carmichael... Dickie the Magnanimous |
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:44:17 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:
"Jonathan Cook" wrote in message I for one have never protested, nor ever served in the military, I've done both. They tend to long stretches of brainless tedium relieved by occasional bouts of ugliness. Yeah, well, Ratsfuror Goering, signing up to be the winch polisher and comfort girl on a BUSL so you can kill gooks doesn't exactly put you on the military level of Alexander the Great (or even the lesser-known Alexander the Incompetent Ignoramus), and whining about Ken, me, et al on ROFF doesn't exactly make you Stokely Carmichael... Dickie the Magnanimous |
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Tom writes:
While I kind of agree in principal with the 7 iron thing(can't picture Ghandi with a weapon....), I will strongly disagree with this point. What Ken was doing was the Exercise of Free Speech. Without him, and countless others doing so, we haven't got a nation worth defending. Tom And, it is those that wear the uniform of the United States of America that have ensured that he has that right, Tom. And I have never said he does not have that right. Protest on, and on, by all means. But, there are better ways of serving your country, and I'm not talking about enlisting in the military. Fortenberry and his ilk bitch and moan about *everything* concerning government, but they do absolutely nothing about it. When an election is held and their candidate loses, they speak of revolution and protest. They never speak of union. It is thei way or ELSE! So much for their "diversity". |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Tom writes: While I kind of agree in principal with the 7 iron thing(can't picture Ghandi with a weapon....), I will strongly disagree with this point. What Ken was doing was the Exercise of Free Speech. Without him, and countless others doing so, we haven't got a nation worth defending. Tom And, it is those that wear the uniform of the United States of America that have ensured that he has that right, Tom. Purest unadulterated horse****.......and almost everybody in this country knows it. The uniformed services of the United States have done precious little to enusre freedom of speech for it's citizens, and then only under orders. They have, as often as not, been used for precisely the opposite purpose. It is an eternal blemish on the character of Americans that ya'll continuously allow this sick homicidal old piece of **** and millions more like it to go on like this ad nauseum AND allow them to kill with your blessings. It is difficult to imagine anything more disgusting. And I have never said he does not have that right. Protest on, and on, by all means. But, there are better ways of serving your country, and I'm not talking about enlisting in the military. Fortenberry and his ilk bitch and moan about *everything* concerning government, but they do absolutely nothing about it. When an election is held and their candidate loses, they speak of revolution and protest. They never speak of union. It is thei way or ELSE! So much for their "diversity". Does any of you actually have any idea of what this maggot is saying? Wolfgang |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
snip Fortenberry and his ilk bitch and moan about *everything* concerning government, but they do absolutely nothing about it. Boy, do you have *that* assbackwards. It's the Reaganistas who would have us believe that government is bad and that the best government is the least government. It's people like me and my ilk who believe that government is necessary to regulate "free market" capitalism, protect the rights of minorities and ensure that *ALL* Americans are treated as if they were created equal. When an election is held and their candidate loses, they speak of revolution and protest. They never speak of union. It is thei way or ELSE! So much for their "diversity". When have you *ever* heard me speak of revolution ? Protest, you're damn right, but the violent overthrow of the United States government ? Not me, Chief, never no way. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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![]() "Wolfgang" wrote in message ... It is an eternal blemish on the character of Americans that ya'll continuously allow this sick homicidal old piece of **** and millions more like it to go on like this ad nauseum AND allow them to kill with your blessings. It is difficult to imagine anything more disgusting. Wolfgang And what do you propose that WE do? Mark --who can only surmise that you are includin' yourself in this "ya'll." Although, I prefer y'all-- |
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Dave writes:
And, it is those that wear the uniform of the United States of America that have ensured that he has that right, Tom. I may be wrong(and hope so), but I get the idea that you feel that those folks are the ONLY ones who have ensured those rights. If so, I will disagree once again. The rights we enjoy in this nation are ensured by a host of folks from the military, to protesters, to the ACLU, to the folks that Wolfgang described, merely minding their own day-to-day business. No group can claim sole defense of our rights. Certainly, blindly serving a senseless leadership in a senseless Mideast conflict doesn't ensure anything good, that I can see..... And I have never said he does not have that right. Protest on, and on, by all means. But, there are better ways of serving your country, and I'm not talking about enlisting in the military. He also has the right to chose his contribution. Others will judge the effectiveness, if any. Fortenberry and his ilk bitch and moan about *everything* concerning government, but they do absolutely nothing about it. When an election is held and their candidate loses, they speak of revolution and protest. They never speak of union. It is thei way or ELSE! So much for their "diversity". I, for one, am all for peaceable compromise and government based on principles which can obtain consensus support. The best of our politicians often worked this way(LBJ was a master, for instance, Nixon wasn't half bad at that technique, either). Diversity and consensus go out the window when you claim "mandates" that do not exist, for positions strongly objected to by nearly half of the population. Who, by the way, would you define as Ken's "ilk"? nothing wrong with protest, or revolution .....if justified. Tom |
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Dave writes:
And, it is those that wear the uniform of the United States of America that have ensured that he has that right, Tom. I may be wrong(and hope so), but I get the idea that you feel that those folks are the ONLY ones who have ensured those rights. If so, I will disagree once again. The rights we enjoy in this nation are ensured by a host of folks from the military, to protesters, to the ACLU, to the folks that Wolfgang described, merely minding their own day-to-day business. No group can claim sole defense of our rights. Certainly, blindly serving a senseless leadership in a senseless Mideast conflict doesn't ensure anything good, that I can see..... And I have never said he does not have that right. Protest on, and on, by all means. But, there are better ways of serving your country, and I'm not talking about enlisting in the military. He also has the right to chose his contribution. Others will judge the effectiveness, if any. Fortenberry and his ilk bitch and moan about *everything* concerning government, but they do absolutely nothing about it. When an election is held and their candidate loses, they speak of revolution and protest. They never speak of union. It is thei way or ELSE! So much for their "diversity". I, for one, am all for peaceable compromise and government based on principles which can obtain consensus support. The best of our politicians often worked this way(LBJ was a master, for instance, Nixon wasn't half bad at that technique, either). Diversity and consensus go out the window when you claim "mandates" that do not exist, for positions strongly objected to by nearly half of the population. Who, by the way, would you define as Ken's "ilk"? nothing wrong with protest, or revolution .....if justified. Tom |
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