cabelas beginner flies

George Cleveland wrote:

Silent retreive and only a very subtle click on the drag.

Good Lord man, a fly reel has got to make some noise!

If you do go the Cabela's route see if you can pick up a combo with
their new Prestige Plus mid-arbor reel. I received one yesterday as
part of a thank you gift from a message board on which I moderate.
Seems to be a very nicely put together reel for the price (for a
KPOS). Silent retreive and only a very subtle click on the drag.


Someone else warned me about the noisy Cahill reel that comes with
Cabelas lowest price combo, but the Prestige Plus combo was a bit
beyond my budget. After long indecision I decided to get the shorter 4
wt rod combo with CSR reel. If the CSR's suck be nice and dont tell me,
presumably they are a little nicer than the Cahills though I dont know
how quiet they are. I spoke with a couple local flyfishers, one said he
would go with a 9 foot rod and the other said thats what he started
with and he hated it, so I went with the guy who said what I wanted to
hear and ordered a 7.5 footer. It'll be good enough to see if I like
this ff stuff or not, I can always get another rod later. I will
definitely buy my flies locally and hopefully get some more local
advice along with them. I will practice with my local bluegills before
taking it into the brush. I cant wait to get started!

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
But do you think the shorter rod will be necessary anyway, for the
places I want to fish? I cant imagine hauling a 9-footer into some of
these places. I've thought about getting a second heavier and longer
rod for other situations, but dont even know if I am going to like
using the first one yet...

Sometimes the places are so tight that the longer rod is helpful because you
can't make a full cast - you just sort of reach the line out there. And
don't worry you don't make too many 40 foot casts on small streams. Still,
a shorter rod like 7.5 feet is probably easier to maneuver on small streams.

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
...

1. When learning to cast, a longer rod is usually
an easier tool. Do not try fishing in confined spaces
until you cast instinctively, e.g. can place your fly on
within 6 inches accuracy at a range of 40 feet without
even thinking about.

Um, I don't even think I can do that, and I manage to catch some fish
sometimes.

On 30 May 2005 14:26:25 -0700, "Joe" wrote:

I am new to ff, will be ordering a Cabelas 5 piece pack rod/reel combo
tomorrow. Is there anything you would recommend in flies for a beginner
that I can also get from Cabelas (without spending $50, hopefully)? I
will be fishing primarily small streams and brookie creeks roughly
10-30 feet wide, in northern WI and MN . I havent yet decided whether
to go with a 3 or 4 wgt, although I'm leaning towards the 4 because it
comes in a shorter length (7'6") and I think that will work better on
the small creeks (and be easier to learn with?). Any thougts on that
choice will also be appreciated though.

Joe,
I haven't a clue what sort of flies you should use way up there but it is
absolutely essential that you get in touch with someone who fishes the sort of
streams you want to fish, in the area you fish to get a good reading on the
fly choice for the local fish. You should also buy the flies locally rather
than from Cabella's to take advantage of regional fly variations.

I'd suggest you delay the rod purchase until you have a clear understanding of
the streams you will be fishing. Any advice you get here will be shaded by the
experience of the advisor and if it cannot be applied to your fishing
conditions you may end up with a rod that that will be a curse rather than a
pleasure. You will find that errors in equipment selection are far more
pronounced for small stream waters than large.
Find someone who regularly fishes the streams you want to fish, get their
suggestions about the equipment you need and you likely will emerge from your
quest for the proper rod with......the proper rod.

Kiyu

Myself, I'm a slow learner and it was much better to stick to ponds, lakes
and lagoons and big streams. Start off for panfish.

Nothing can be more discouraging than to get in way over your head in
alders.....

john
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am new to ff, will be ordering a Cabelas 5 piece pack rod/reel combo
tomorrow. Is there anything you would recommend in flies for a beginner
that I can also get from Cabelas (without spending $50, hopefully)? I
will be fishing primarily small streams and brookie creeks roughly
10-30 feet wide, in northern WI and MN . I havent yet decided whether
to go with a 3 or 4 wgt, although I'm leaning towards the 4 because it
comes in a shorter length (7'6") and I think that will work better on
the small creeks (and be easier to learn with?). Any thougts on that
choice will also be appreciated though.

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am new to ff, will be ordering a Cabelas 5 piece pack rod/reel combo
tomorrow. Is there anything you would recommend in flies for a beginner
that I can also get from Cabelas (without spending $50, hopefully)? I
will be fishing primarily small streams and brookie creeks roughly
10-30 feet wide, in northern WI and MN . I havent yet decided whether
to go with a 3 or 4 wgt, although I'm leaning towards the 4 because it
comes in a shorter length (7'6") and I think that will work better on
the small creeks (and be easier to learn with?). Any thougts on that
choice will also be appreciated though.

Up to a point, longer rods are usually easier to cast. As are heavier lines
(4,5,6 compared to 1,2,3) Having said that, my favorite small stream rod is
a 7.5 foot 4 wt. I'd buy my flies at a shop where you can see them first.

jeffc wrote:

Up to a point, longer rods are usually easier to cast. As are heavier lines
(4,5,6 compared to 1,2,3) Having said that, my favorite small stream rod is
a 7.5 foot 4 wt. I'd buy my flies at a shop where you can see them first.

Thats exactly the rod I bought, a Cabelas Stowaway 4 wt 7.5' and it
arrived today. I'm no expert on flyfishing but I know cheap crappy
merchandise when I see it. I'm very happy to say I did not see anything
of the sort when I opened my package. The rod is beautiful and seems
very well-made, and the reel seems well made and is very functional (in
my living room anyway). But on top of that it came with a cordura wrap
with slots for each section, and two very nice cases, a tube and a pack
case with handle, and a seperate paded reel case. Nothing about this
package appears cheap. I am quite impressed and if it works half as
well as it appears to be made, I will be very happy. Tomorrow I head to
the fly shop for flies.

"Joe" wrote in
oups.com:

.........you know, of course Joe, that these rods are fondly known as
"kpos's" (korean pieces of ****) so named by our own inestimable Ken
Fortenberry) But screw him, I have every Stowaway and Three Forks rods
that Cabelas sells (except one) and they are all well worth the money. I
can tell you that the 5 and 6 wts have hauled aboard my boat some mighty
impressive smallmouth bass. No worries that the multi-piece rods will be
"stiffer" than 2 pc rods of the same action, I can't tell the difference.
They are all medium action rods and especially suited for a beginner to
fly casting. You have made a wise purchase my friend.

Frank Church
....who loves ya Forty? :-)


Thats exactly the rod I bought, a Cabelas Stowaway 4 wt 7.5' and it
arrived today. I'm no expert on flyfishing but I know cheap crappy
merchandise when I see it. I'm very happy to say I did not see
anything of the sort when I opened my package. The rod is beautiful
and seems very well-made, and the reel seems well made and is very
functional (in my living room anyway). But on top of that it came with
a cordura wrap with slots for each section, and two very nice cases, a
tube and a pack case with handle, and a seperate paded reel case.
Nothing about this package appears cheap. I am quite impressed and if
it works half as well as it appears to be made, I will be very happy.
Tomorrow I head to the fly shop for flies.

Thats exactly the rod I bought, a Cabelas Stowaway 4 wt 7.5' and it
arrived today. I'm no expert on flyfishing but I know cheap crappy
merchandise when I see it. I'm very happy to say I did not see
anything of the sort when I opened my package. The rod is beautiful
and seems very well-made, and the reel seems well made and is very
functional (in my living room anyway). But on top of that it came with
a cordura wrap with slots for each section, and two very nice cases, a
tube and a pack case with handle, and a seperate paded reel case.
Nothing about this package appears cheap. I am quite impressed and if
it works half as well as it appears to be made, I will be very happy.
Tomorrow I head to the fly shop for flies.

Well I set about loading my reel last night. I think I did everything a
first-timer is supposed to do. I tied the backing on with an arbor
knot, put on enough to allow just enough room on the spool for the fly
line, attached the fly line with Albright knot, started reeling it on
and looked down horrified to see the fly line had fallen into 10,000
knots all by itelf, and spent the rest of the night unravelling it. Did
I miss anything?

Oh yeah, then I ended up with juuuuussssst a hair too much line on the
reel because the last 20 feet or so would rub the guides, so tonight I
get to unreel it all, trim the backing, and do it again!