When do you use a leader?

Depends on the fish. Bass do not seem to be leader shy. They are not using
their eyes, but lateral lines for finding food. Mostly they are either
hungry when hitting the bait, or mad when hitting the bait. Other fish are
leader shy. Some like Albacore and other tuna, have big eyes, and see
extremely well. Then a flourocarbon leader on braid or mono will help you
hook fish.

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"RichZ" wrote in message
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Seismo wrote:
This is going to sound like a stupid question but as Mr. Garrison
says,
there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
I've always used mono line on my Curado.
All this talk lately of braided line makes me want to give it a try. I
assume you use a mono or flourocarbon leader for (in)visibility
purposes when using braided lines?
How much of a leader do you typically use - 6-8" or so?

What other situations would you use a leader on standard rod and
reels(non-fly-tackle)?



I NEVER use a leader on braided line. I tie direct to the hook.

I'm with Rich on this one. I too tie directly to the hook, regardless of
what type of lure I'm using.

I figure that if a fish's brain isn't developed enough to register pain,
it
certainly isn't going to reason out a line from the lure.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

I've never used a leader. Went fishing a spring-fed gravel pit this
morning, crystal clear water. Tied 20# PowerPro directly to a 1/0 hook
with 1/16 oz bullet weight and fished a 3" Mann's Dragin Fly. Caught 10
smallish bass and a nice bluegill in an hour. They didn't seem to care
that they could see the line.

Henry Hefner wrote:

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

"RichZ" wrote in message
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Seismo wrote:

This is going to sound like a stupid question but as Mr. Garrison says,
there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
I've always used mono line on my Curado.
All this talk lately of braided line makes me want to give it a try. I
assume you use a mono or flourocarbon leader for (in)visibility
purposes when using braided lines?
How much of a leader do you typically use - 6-8" or so?

What other situations would you use a leader on standard rod and
reels(non-fly-tackle)?



I NEVER use a leader on braided line. I tie direct to the hook.

I'm with Rich on this one. I too tie directly to the hook, regardless of
what type of lure I'm using.

I figure that if a fish's brain isn't developed enough to register pain, it
certainly isn't going to reason out a line from the lure.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com


I've never used a leader. Went fishing a spring-fed gravel pit this
morning, crystal clear water. Tied 20# PowerPro directly to a 1/0 hook
with 1/16 oz bullet weight and fished a 3" Mann's Dragin Fly. Caught 10
smallish bass and a nice bluegill in an hour. They didn't seem to care
that they could see the line.

Well, this could almost be a religious debate. Ask KVD and he will tell
you that line doesn't matter. who could really argue with him. I
believe that is does in certain circumstances, in clear water, with a
slow presentation I believe it does make a difference. As long as I am
not breaking fish off I will continue running a fluoro leader in clear
water.
I know Trout and Bass are not the same fish, but I have seen
fluorocarbon make a difference in catching steelhead and browns, and I
just carry that over to bass. I figure as long as it is not hurting me,
I will stick with it.

Chris

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
news:42a45ca7$0 but I have seen
fluorocarbon make a difference in catching steelhead and browns,

I'm with ya Chris, I would never fish braid for trout, those wet socks see
everything :-)

Thanks, guys. This has really helped.
Sounds like the short answer is - braided line when toughness counts
and stretch is not needed and mono or flourocarbon for other
applications - eached tied directly to the line...at least for bass
fishing.

"Seismo" wrote in message
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Thanks, guys. This has really helped.
Sounds like the short answer is - braided line when toughness counts
and stretch is not needed and mono or flourocarbon for other
applications - eached tied directly to the line...at least for bass
fishing.


Flouro carbon has very little stretch compared to mono. Go for a hard hook
set with 12Lb Seaguar with less than 30 yards of line and it will jar your
arms almost as much as braid on a similar action and power rod.


--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com

Bob La Londe wrote:
"Seismo" wrote in message
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Thanks, guys. This has really helped.
Sounds like the short answer is - braided line when toughness counts
and stretch is not needed and mono or flourocarbon for other
applications - eached tied directly to the line...at least for bass
fishing.



Flouro carbon has very little stretch compared to mono. Go for a hard hook
set with 12Lb Seaguar with less than 30 yards of line and it will jar your
arms almost as much as braid on a similar action and power rod.


You beat me to it Bob :-). I love the sensitivity you get from Fluoro.
To me it is like a braid/mono mix without the castability. Pure
fluoro is too stiff. Fluoroclear is nice, but then you lose the
sensitivity you get from pure fluoro. So a lot of time I use 10/2 PP
with about a 3' fluoro leader. That way I get castability and the
benefits of both PP (fused/braid) and fluoro.

Chris

Dean Rojas says he'll never fish mono again.

WW

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Seismo" wrote in message
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Thanks, guys. This has really helped.
Sounds like the short answer is - braided line when toughness counts
and stretch is not needed and mono or flourocarbon for other
applications - eached tied directly to the line...at least for bass
fishing.



Flouro carbon has very little stretch compared to mono. Go for a hard
hook
set with 12Lb Seaguar with less than 30 yards of line and it will jar
your
arms almost as much as braid on a similar action and power rod.


You beat me to it Bob :-). I love the sensitivity you get from Fluoro.
To me it is like a braid/mono mix without the castability. Pure
fluoro is too stiff. Fluoroclear is nice, but then you lose the
sensitivity you get from pure fluoro. So a lot of time I use 10/2 PP
with about a 3' fluoro leader. That way I get castability and the
benefits of both PP (fused/braid) and fluoro.

Chris

What do you say about the braid Warren? Use it at all? If so when?


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Dean Rojas says he'll never fish mono again.

WW

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Seismo" wrote in message
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Thanks, guys. This has really helped.
Sounds like the short answer is - braided line when toughness counts
and stretch is not needed and mono or flourocarbon for other
applications - eached tied directly to the line...at least for bass
fishing.



Flouro carbon has very little stretch compared to mono. Go for a hard
hook
set with 12Lb Seaguar with less than 30 yards of line and it will jar
your
arms almost as much as braid on a similar action and power rod.


You beat me to it Bob :-). I love the sensitivity you get from Fluoro.
To me it is like a braid/mono mix without the castability. Pure
fluoro is too stiff. Fluoroclear is nice, but then you lose the
sensitivity you get from pure fluoro. So a lot of time I use 10/2 PP
with about a 3' fluoro leader. That way I get castability and the
benefits of both PP (fused/braid) and fluoro.

Chris

Rojas was referring to using fleurocarbon to replace mono Randy. I don't
have braid on any of my rods at present, I just haven't liked fishing with
it.

Warren

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
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What do you say about the braid Warren? Use it at all? If so when?


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Dean Rojas says he'll never fish mono again.

WW

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Seismo" wrote in message
oups.com...

Thanks, guys. This has really helped.
Sounds like the short answer is - braided line when toughness counts
and stretch is not needed and mono or flourocarbon for other
applications - eached tied directly to the line...at least for bass
fishing.



Flouro carbon has very little stretch compared to mono. Go for a
hard
hook
set with 12Lb Seaguar with less than 30 yards of line and it will jar
your
arms almost as much as braid on a similar action and power rod.


You beat me to it Bob :-). I love the sensitivity you get from
Fluoro.
To me it is like a braid/mono mix without the castability. Pure
fluoro is too stiff. Fluoroclear is nice, but then you lose the
sensitivity you get from pure fluoro. So a lot of time I use 10/2 PP
with about a 3' fluoro leader. That way I get castability and the
benefits of both PP (fused/braid) and fluoro.

Chris