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Some pos(t)er stomped HisHer foot and pouted:
"How could others not find preventing the pain of suffocation and being scaled alive through a DAMN EASY METHOD important! You all have the power to prevent is, but most of you don't seem to want to lift a finger to get a bucket of ice for the fish, or like the original post said--use a scaling board and cut off the fish's head first." Well, soupsandwich, for starters most of us here are catch and release fisherman. Secondarily, when you are standing up to your balls (its just an expression, don't get your panties in a knot) in a river, 'lifting a finger to get a bucket of ice for the fish' is laughable. Thirdly, I don't keep a scaling board hanging off of my fly fishing vest. Fourthly, being the guy who CAUSED the poor fish family to have to hold sunday services for its poor departed cousin, it seems rather incongruous to also be the one who dons surgical gloves and does fishy mouth to mouth and brings flowers to ease its pain. How many fish do you think die of old age, peacefully in their sleep? --riverman |
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![]() "riverman" wrote in message oups.com... ...How many fish do you think die of old age, peacefully in their sleep? Well, there's the vast majority of those I've pursued. And, having spent time astream with Wayno, Jeffie, Mark, Tom, Tom, Tom, Ken, Bill, Bob, Steve, Steve, Uncle Wally, John, George, Joel, Wayne, Kim, Mike, Frank, Frank, Dave, Joe, and.....and.....uh.....well, sundry others, I'd say the odds are looking pretty good. ![]() Wolfgang um.....on the other hand, there's willi....... ![]() |
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riverman wrote:
Well, soupsandwich, for starters most of us here are catch and release fisherman. Secondarily, when you are standing up to your balls (its just an expression, don't get your panties in a knot) in a river, 'lifting a finger to get a bucket of ice for the fish' is laughable. Thirdly, I don't keep a scaling board hanging off of my fly fishing vest. Fourthly, being the guy who CAUSED the poor fish family to have to hold sunday services for its poor departed cousin, it seems rather incongruous to also be the one who dons surgical gloves and does fishy mouth to mouth and brings flowers to ease its pain. All I know about fly fishing is that you need little hairy things called flies. I didn't have catch and release fisherman or wading in mind. How many fish do you think die of old age, peacefully in their sleep? I don't know. I'm just trying to make things easier for the ones on the boat with the fisherman who caught them. Do they make electrocution lures that electrocute only the fish that's caught? That would be a little unsportsmanlike, but that wouldn't bother me so much for food fishing if it worked well. Or some kid of electrocution spear. |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... All I know about fly fishing is that you need little hairy things called flies. It isn't so much a matter of need as it is the fact that if you're out there, you get 'em. ![]() I didn't have catch and release fisherman or wading in mind. Or much of anything else, for that matter. How many fish do you think die of old age, peacefully in their sleep? I don't know. I'm just trying to make things easier for the ones on the boat with the fisherman who caught them. Maybe you could make formal introductions. That's always helped a lot in social encounters in my experience. Do they make electrocution lures that electrocute only the fish that's caught? That would be a little unsportsmanlike, but that wouldn't bother me so much for food fishing if it worked well. Or some kid of electrocution spear. A firecracker tucked well into the mouth works pretty well......and it's much simpler (and cheaper) than fancy electrical devices.....not to mention the bother of batteries or the very real risks associated with running a 440 line from shore. Then too, a .44 to the back of the head (.357 will do in a pinch.....well, for panfish, anyway) rarely fails to do the job quickly and with a minimum of fuss. Um.....DO remember to take along a bilge pump! On the other hand, why not simply take the path of least resistance? If the metaphysical angst of all these traumatized fish (and let us not forget all of those other finny, feathery, and furry little beasties with......um, shall we say 'proscribed lives'?) is just too too much for you to bear, why then you can make it all go away in a flash.....so to speak. Just hold that ..44 real steady......turn it around.......and squeeze. Don't Jerk! Squeeeeeeze. Nice and easy. Lights out. End of the world. Tie score all the way around. ![]() Wolfgang to sleep......perchance to dream..... |
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![]() barry wrote... All I know about fly fishing is that you need little hairy things called flies. I didn't have catch and release fisherman or wading in mind. Hairy things? WTF? What's wrong with being a little more hairy than the next guy? Jeez. Now I'm gonna be used to catch a fish.... Berry, you're a nutjob. Coming close to world-class level. Maybe you mean well. Hell, I dunno. If you want to have some real fun, find a hunting NG and start telling everyone how Bambi hates the arrow that suddenly got shoved where the sun don't shine. As an aside -- it's nuts like yourself, Berry (I'll call you 'Boysen' -- one of my faves) that give the far right political wing all the leverage they need. "Damned liberals want to outlaw fishing. That ain't right!" "Better vote for GOPCO's nominee. They'll let us fish in peace And hunt, too. Nevermind the insidious intrusion of religion into our private lives." Learn to pick your battles. And, while I'm a layman, I'd really suggest that you get some therapy. Dan Yes, the spelling was intentional. |
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Barry,
As I mentioned, know your audience. One, 99% of the folks here are catch and release 99% of the time. You figure how many we keep. Two, trout don't have scales worth worrying about so we don't scale them. Three, old item that trout fishermen who do keep their catch use is called a priest. Small club used to stun and kill the fish immediately. Four, we don't carry two differing bags of ice (one with and one without water) out on a stream as we are often miles from any vehicle. So, your ranting, raving only serves to make you look more foolish than you already are. Joined Mensa when I was 16. Joined Tabla too. Gave it all up when I found that the vast majority of the folks didn't have the sense God gave a goose. The one's with sense left too. So, shut up, learn and move on. Cheers Frank Reid |
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Frank Reid wrote:
Barry, Small club used to stun and kill the fish immediately. I referred to that early on. About 10 years ago, I asked on Compuserver how I can find fish that were caught by someone who clubbed them as opposed to just letting them suffocate, but nobody responded. I learned about those clubs from a fishing show. The guy said that it actually bothers some people to club the fish. I thought it was rare until now. |
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You know, I've been convinced of the error of my ways.
Anyone know where I can get Lidocaine-impregnated hooks? I intend to dip them in Betadine before I cast them, just to help with the healing process. And I will only tie flies from materials harvested from free-range animals, who died gently in their sleep. And I'll only use floatant and other chemical materials from companies that refuse to do animal testing. The tippet and leader material must be biodegradable, and all labor for my gear, clothing and materials will be from countries that do not have sweatshops, and have honored the UN Declaration of Human Rights. I'll stop swatting mosquitoes, but use Skin-so-soft instead. I'll ensure the gas in my car that I use to get to the stream was from US fuel reserves, the car is a Hybrid that gets at least 30 mpg, but I only use it for journeys in excess of 10 miles (errr, I mean 16 kilometers) when I can't ride my bike, take public transport or walk, and I will only drink american beer. --riverman Well, I might slip up on the beer thing. |
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On 17 Nov 2005 18:11:51 -0800, "riverman" wrote:
(Snipped) I'll ensure the gas in my car that I use to get to the stream was from US fuel reserves Isn't it going to cost you extra to have that imported to your locality? Whichever foreign one you happen to be in at any given moment? Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email) |
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Frank Reid wrote:
Joined Mensa when I was 16. Joined Tabla too. Gave it all up when I found that the vast majority of the folks didn't have the sense God gave a goose. How were the rest of 'em as far as staying upright? I mean, maybe yer brains make you fellers top-heavy. ;-) -- TL, Tim --------------------------- http://css.sbcma.com/timj/ |
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