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Old December 6th, 2005, 11:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:27:09 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"scott" wrote in message
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Grind a wine bottle cork in your food processor, mix with two-part
epoxy, apply to handle, let cure, buff down with a fine-grit paper or
nail file. Done!


Cheap, fast, easy, and effective. However, the trouble with all methods
using, ground, powdered, sanded, or otherwise disintegrated cork in a glue
base is that you lose both of the primary benefits of using cork in the
first place......insulation and, more importantly, resilience.
Essentially,
the method you describe (variations of which have been put forward by
others) is that you are simply filling with epoxy or some other gap
filling
compound. The cork bits become mere window dressing. Better to cut a
piece
of solid cork to fit.....even to enlarge and shape the defect if
necessary,
and then cutting and gluing a patch to fit.

Um...sorta.


No, exactly.

.. That's why the preferred method is dust rather than chopped
"bits."


Preferred by whom? Double-naught superheroes everywhere? Not by me.

and a less-hard-setting adhesive rather than epoxy. Think of a
wood dough of fine sawdust versus a mixture of chips and epoxy - neither
is an impossible-to-detect restoration, but the former is preferable to
the latter.


You haven't done a great deal of restoration work, have you?

Wolfgang


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Old December 6th, 2005, 11:59 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:47:13 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

You haven't done a great deal of restoration work, have you?

You mean as in your "Never had to do it myself, but it seems to me..."
experience? g
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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:05 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:47:13 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

You haven't done a great deal of restoration work, have you?

You mean as in your "Never had to do it myself, but it seems to me..."
experience? g


No.....dumbass. That's not what it means at all. Would you like to venture
another guess?

Wolfgang


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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:11 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:05:41 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:47:13 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

You haven't done a great deal of restoration work, have you?

You mean as in your "Never had to do it myself, but it seems to me..."
experience? g


No.....dumbass. That's not what it means at all. Would you like to venture
another guess?

No, "but it seems to me..."... dumbass.
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Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com
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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:11 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:47:13 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:27:09 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"scott" wrote in message
groups.com...
Grind a wine bottle cork in your food processor, mix with two-part
epoxy, apply to handle, let cure, buff down with a fine-grit paper or
nail file. Done!

Cheap, fast, easy, and effective. However, the trouble with all methods
using, ground, powdered, sanded, or otherwise disintegrated cork in a glue
base is that you lose both of the primary benefits of using cork in the
first place......insulation and, more importantly, resilience.
Essentially,
the method you describe (variations of which have been put forward by
others) is that you are simply filling with epoxy or some other gap
filling
compound. The cork bits become mere window dressing. Better to cut a
piece
of solid cork to fit.....even to enlarge and shape the defect if
necessary,
and then cutting and gluing a patch to fit.

Um...sorta.


No, exactly.


No, not exactly.

. That's why the preferred method is dust rather than chopped
"bits."


Preferred by whom?


Amongst others, professional rod finishers.

Double-naught superheroes everywhere?


Well, the better ones at least.

Not by me.


Not surprising in the least...and meaningless, to boot.

and a less-hard-setting adhesive rather than epoxy. Think of a
wood dough of fine sawdust versus a mixture of chips and epoxy - neither
is an impossible-to-detect restoration, but the former is preferable to
the latter.


You haven't done a great deal of restoration work, have you?


If you don't count the dozens of various pieces and projects that
currently await me, yes, I have.

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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:19 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:05:41 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Would you like to venture another guess?

No, "but it seems to me..."... dumbass.


What seems which to you?

Wolfgang
it's a damned shame, really......for the last year or so the boy was doing a
pretty good impression of an adult.


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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:23 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:47:13 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:27:09 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"scott" wrote in message
egroups.com...
Grind a wine bottle cork in your food processor, mix with two-part
epoxy, apply to handle, let cure, buff down with a fine-grit paper or
nail file. Done!

Cheap, fast, easy, and effective. However, the trouble with all methods
using, ground, powdered, sanded, or otherwise disintegrated cork in a
glue
base is that you lose both of the primary benefits of using cork in the
first place......insulation and, more importantly, resilience.
Essentially,
the method you describe (variations of which have been put forward by
others) is that you are simply filling with epoxy or some other gap
filling
compound. The cork bits become mere window dressing. Better to cut a
piece
of solid cork to fit.....even to enlarge and shape the defect if
necessary,
and then cutting and gluing a patch to fit.

Um...sorta.


No, exactly.


No, not exactly.

. That's why the preferred method is dust rather than chopped
"bits."


Preferred by whom?


Amongst others, professional rod finishers.


Which professional rod finishers? How about professional rod restorers?

Double-naught superheroes everywhere?


Well, the better ones at least.


Well.......gosh.

Not by me.


Not surprising in the least...and meaningless, to boot.


And responding to meaninglessness is.......what?

and a less-hard-setting adhesive rather than epoxy. Think of a
wood dough of fine sawdust versus a mixture of chips and epoxy - neither
is an impossible-to-detect restoration, but the former is preferable to
the latter.


You haven't done a great deal of restoration work, have you?


If you don't count the dozens of various pieces and projects that
currently await me, yes, I have.


Yeah? What sort?

And, no, I don't usually count things "awaiting" as done. But hey, it's a
HELL of a way to boost your score!

Wolfgang
ooh, we are gonna have SUCH fun for the next couple of days!


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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:30 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:19:51 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Wolfgang
it's a damned shame, really......for the last year or so the boy was doing a
pretty good impression of an adult.

Oh the irony.
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Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com
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Old December 7th, 2005, 12:32 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:19:51 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Wolfgang
it's a damned shame, really......for the last year or so the boy was doing
a
pretty good impression of an adult.

Oh the irony.


Oh, the penetrating insight!

Wolfgang
hee, hee, hee.


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Old December 7th, 2005, 11:18 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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There is one more method that no-one seems to have mentioned.

Cork dust and glue will fix it so that visibly you can almost not tell
there was a divot once, but if you are doing repair on the exact spot
where your index finger is touching then you will definitely not like
the feeling of hardened glue on that spot.

I have built and repaired a number of rods and allthough it might seem
a bit strange I d suggest cutting away a bigger piece than just the
divot, then using a cork ring for the purpose of making your own
handles to replace the bad part. Just shape it into the piece that you
cut away, using a razor.

When gluing the new piece in place use as little glue as possible,
without risking that the piece will losen again. Oh, and use a flexible
kind of glue, not the epoxy type.

/Roger

 




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