Intro and a fishing equipment question - (Long-winded)

"Wolfgang" wrote in :

It works beautifully on small
overgrown stream

Would you, by any chance, be talking about dem brook trout streams? That's
a different story altogether. They'll take anything, presented anyhow.
The challenge there is bushwhacking to the stream, and showing enough
restraint not to fish it out!

Damn, if brook trout weren't so pretty and tasty, and living in such
godawful pretty places, and if fishing for them weren't so much fun,
there'd hardly be any reason to fish for them at all.

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Scott
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"Wolfgang" wrote in
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It works beautifully on small
overgrown stream

Would you, by any chance, be talking about dem brook trout streams?
That's
a different story altogether. They'll take anything, presented anyhow.
The challenge there is bushwhacking to the stream, and showing enough
restraint not to fish it out!

Well, I DO love my brookies.

Damn, if brook trout weren't so pretty and tasty, and living in such
godawful pretty places, and if fishing for them weren't so much fun,
there'd hardly be any reason to fish for them at all.

True enough. However, it is what it is. We simply have to deal with it.


But......

With or without brookies.....with or without small streams.....one can fish
effectively, successfully, and gleefully for a lifetime with a short rod.

Wolfgang
who will thank the assembled perverts here to refrain from mentioning and
dwelling......at great length......on the all too obvious parallel.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I've got a four foot rod I built out of the tip section of an old busted
up glass rod I found in an abandoned house. It works beautifully on small
overgrown streams. It has also served me well on larger, more open
waters.

Wolfgang

Years ago, I first got into fly fishing through some fortuitous gifts of fly
rods. Old, broken and cheap cane they were.

I found a damaged Southbend and did some alterations. With epoxy and what
not I made the second to last section of a four piece rod, the butt section.
Actually a bit shorter as I had a nine foot rod to begin with and ended up
with a six and one half foot rod.

I gave that rod away to a young boy and now, looking back on it, I release
what a sweet little rod it was ...maybe that's why I gave it to him in the
first place.

Anyhow, his mom was a six foot African Goddess and I never got laid.

john . . . I wish I would have kept the rod.

"asadi" wrote in message
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Years ago, I first got into fly fishing through some fortuitous gifts of
fly rods. Old, broken and cheap cane they were.

I found a damaged Southbend and did some alterations. With epoxy and what
not I made the second to last section of a four piece rod, the butt
section. Actually a bit shorter as I had a nine foot rod to begin with and
ended up with a six and one half foot rod.

I gave that rod away to a young boy and now, looking back on it, I release
what a sweet little rod it was ...maybe that's why I gave it to him in the
first place.

Anyhow, his mom was a six foot African Goddess and I never got laid.

john . . . I wish I would have kept the rod.

Near as I can figure it (and I wouldn't risk a shiny new nickel on it),
there's just gotta be some sort of karmic principle at work here.....but I
be go ta hell if I got a clue what it might be. It's like when I gave that
kid all those flies in Estes Park years ago and then ten years later I get a
flat tire. What the hell is THAT about?!

Wolfgang
who knows that keeping score.....accurately......is a stone cold bitch.

"Wolfgang" wrote

Wolfgang
who knows that keeping score.....accurately......is a stone cold bitch.

quite possibly the most profound post i have seen in this forum these
past few months.

yfitons
wayno(i mean, no ****)

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"asadi" wrote in message
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"Bob S"
Been lurking awhile - snip -

Detailed perhaps however, all information was relevant, certainly though
and not without little thought it is my opinion, if I may be so bold as
to offer in the midst of these fine, respectable gentlemen who represent
the North's and the South's most excellent manners and wit, among whom
are not in the least most well read gentlemen, I would like to say that I
did not think it in least, from any perspective of those present, long
winded.....

john

Hm......

Yep.

Anyway, the minority report:

Shorter is better......always......well, nearly. Longer rods are better
for dapping. That's o.k. if you're going to be a dapping
specialist.....most of us aren't. Theoretically a longer rod will also
allow you to make longer casts. In fact, improving your technique will
make a much bigger difference than does another foot or two of rod length.
Besides, most people spend way too much time making casts that are much
too long to do them any practical good in catching fish. Nothing wrong
with making long casts if that's what you're there for.....but it isn't
the way to catch a lot of fish.....generally.

Short rods are easier to pack, easier to carry through the woods, easier
to swing in tight quarters, and easier to control. There is a pervasive
and pernicious conventional wisdom that says a longer rod is better for
fighting fish because you get more leverage. This is as wrong as it can
possibly be. The fish has the long end of the lever. Since the fulcrum
and the short end remain constant (more or less), the shorter the rod, the
less mechanical advantage the fish enjoys. Leverage is also an issue in
casting.....the shorter the rod, the less work to aerialize the line.
Short rods make it much easier to bring a fish in close enough to grab or
net when the time comes. Short rods are lighter.

I've got a four foot rod I built out of the tip section of an old busted
up glass rod I found in an abandoned house. It works beautifully on small
overgrown streams. It has also served me well on larger, more open
waters.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang,

There's this stream in Montana, near Holter dam that your 4' rod was made
for...... and the brookies are just waiting for you - guaranteed!

Thanks for your comments and sharing your experiences and knowledge. See
the posts above and you'll note that I've decided on keeping both of the
short rods for the reasons stated. Your input helped make that "tough"
decision.....;-)

Happy New Year to ya,

Bob S.

"asadi" wrote in message
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"Bob S"
Been lurking awhile - snip -

Detailed perhaps however, all information was relevant, certainly though
and not without little thought it is my opinion, if I may be so bold as to
offer in the midst of these fine, respectable gentlemen who represent the
North's and the South's most excellent manners and wit, among whom are
not in the least most well read gentlemen, I would like to say that I did
not think it in least, from any perspective of those present, long
winded.....

john


John,

Thank you for those supporting words - I think..... (I gotta go back and
read that again....)

Happy New Year,

Bob S.

Appreciate the advice from all that offered it and I will get back to report
on what my flogging in the backyard has revealed as soon as I can. Got a
bit jammed up today and haven't had a chance to do a setup on the reels and
test these puppies.

Bob S.