alaska - cabins

Jeff,

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http://www.katmailand.com/sport-fish....html#unguided

This is the famous Alagnak River, output of Kukaklek Lake.

I've floated from the lake downstream about six miles and caught lots
of BIG rainbows and a few Silvers. The big bows come out of the lake
to feed on the salmon eggs during the spawn. The outfitters would fly
you into Nonvianuk Camp which is downstream from the only rapids in
the river.

The last week in August and the first week in September you would have
peak fishing for bows, dollies, grayling, and silvers. It actually
sounds like a pretty good trip. And, it is inexpensive except for the
airfare to Anchorage.

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:

And, it is inexpensive except for the
airfare to Anchorage.

Dave



i just checked airfare from raleigh to anchorage...a very reasonable 600
bucks. i think the costs once in alaska may be the bigger concern. looks
like everything is oriented to fly-outs. tough costs for someone who's
afraid of flying... g

jeff

Jeff Miller wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:

And, it is inexpensive except for the

airfare to Anchorage.

Dave



i just checked airfare from raleigh to anchorage...a very reasonable 600
bucks. i think the costs once in alaska may be the bigger concern. looks
like everything is oriented to fly-outs. tough costs for someone who's
afraid of flying... g

The backcountry flying is very expensive, effectively dominating the costs.

Chas mentioned a trip idea that sounded cool. The idea is to go by car
from Anchorage very late in the season, targeting hungry rainbows after
the salmon runs have finished up. The roadside combat fishermen in
Alaska are targeting salmon -- especially kings. In addition, after
hunting season starts the fishing pressure decreases dramatically. At
least that's the theory.

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Jeff Miller wrote:





thanks dave...i'll look for it too. when's best for fewest biting bugs
and skeeters?

jeff

I think there's some trade off there. We went fairly late in the season
and there were no bugs. However, there were torrential rains. Earlier in
the season, the weather tends to be better but there are many more bugs.

Willi

rw wrote:
Jeff Miller wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:

And, it is inexpensive except for the

airfare to Anchorage.

Dave



i just checked airfare from raleigh to anchorage...a very reasonable
600 bucks. i think the costs once in alaska may be the bigger concern.
looks like everything is oriented to fly-outs. tough costs for
someone who's afraid of flying... g


The backcountry flying is very expensive, effectively dominating the costs.

Chas mentioned a trip idea that sounded cool. The idea is to go by car
from Anchorage very late in the season, targeting hungry rainbows after
the salmon runs have finished up. The roadside combat fishermen in
Alaska are targeting salmon -- especially kings. In addition, after
hunting season starts the fishing pressure decreases dramatically. At
least that's the theory.



The biggest Rainbows of the years are available after the Salmon runs
finish. The Rainbows double in weight from Spring to Fall.

Willi

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Jeff,

Check out
http://www.katmailand.com/sport-fish....html#unguided

This is the famous Alagnak River, output of Kukaklek Lake.

I've floated from the lake downstream about six miles and caught lots
of BIG rainbows and a few Silvers. The big bows come out of the lake
to feed on the salmon eggs during the spawn. The outfitters would fly
you into Nonvianuk Camp which is downstream from the only rapids in
the river.

The last week in August and the first week in September you would have
peak fishing for bows, dollies, grayling, and silvers. It actually
sounds like a pretty good trip. And, it is inexpensive except for the
airfare to Anchorage.

Dave




That was an area I first considered because of the outstanding Rainbow
fishing. However, I corresponded with several people who reported great
fishing but also commented on crowded conditions and "fights" over
fishing spots. One gentlemen told me about lodges that have employees
camp out at choice locations so they can "reserve" them for their
sports. If I remember right, you ran into some of this even though you
had frequent flyouts and had guides and the lodge finding you the best
places.

Willi

Jeff Miller wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:

And, it is inexpensive except for the

airfare to Anchorage.

Dave



i just checked airfare from raleigh to anchorage...a very reasonable 600
bucks. i think the costs once in alaska may be the bigger concern. looks
like everything is oriented to fly-outs. tough costs for someone who's
afraid of flying... g

jeff


Payin' for something that scares you has got to suck! Thankfully I love
flying.

Willi

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 18:00:22 -0700, Willi
wrote:

That was an area I first considered because of the outstanding Rainbow
fishing. However, I corresponded with several people who reported great
fishing but also commented on crowded conditions and "fights" over
fishing spots. One gentlemen told me about lodges that have employees
camp out at choice locations so they can "reserve" them for their
sports. If I remember right, you ran into some of this even though you
had frequent flyouts and had guides and the lodge finding you the best
places.

I haven't fished Alaska under any crowded conditions. There are
lodges, however, that own Otters as well as Beavers and can put 16
people on a river, literally taking it over. I believe this has
happened on a river flowing into the Alagnak called Little Ku. We
flew over it at 1500 feet to check it out and there were more bears
than fishermen. My last trip found Little Ku closed to fishing due to
the bears.

The Alagnak float I quoted to Jeff is through Kulik Lodge which is on
Nonvianuk Lake. Other lodges, however, also use the river.

Dave

Jeff Miller wrote:

as you know, i usually stumble about in the shadows of those with a lot
more knowledge.g good suggestions all. given this year's plans, i'm
probably looking toward 2007 for planning purposes. i like the idea of
the float trip. the guys at appalachian anglers in boone do it every
year, but the do-it-yourself trip rw, willi, and charles did appeals to
me the most. i just assumed all the alaskan waters were fertile fishing
spots, so i'll re-tool my studies. jim and i know a guy from here that
moved to alaska, lives near, but north of anchorage. he's a pilot and
hunter/fisherman. we've talked loosely about renewing our acquaintance
with him. g

jeff

We met the Appalachian Anglers crew on the Kanektok. I'm sure they knew where
the fish were, and we saw what elaborate camps they set up, but when the
weather got rough they hunkered down in camp while we moved on and caught fish.
My point here is that a small group can fish more on the float and fit into
smaller camp spots. We can also find trouble a bit more easily ;-)

I've heard about cabins in the Tongas National Forest in SE Alaska. Usually
they come with a boat, and sometimes they come with good fishing. I don't
think they provide the kind of float trip option we had, unless you can find a
string of cabins on some river and schedule in advance your camps. I haven't
heard of such a thing in AK.

Chas
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chas wrote:



We met the Appalachian Anglers crew on the Kanektok. I'm sure they knew where
the fish were, and we saw what elaborate camps they set up, but when the
weather got rough they hunkered down in camp while we moved on and caught fish.
My point here is that a small group can fish more on the float and fit into
smaller camp spots. We can also find trouble a bit more easily ;-)

theo and hayden copeland are the principal owners at appalachian anglers
(or were when i was last there a few years ago). very friendly,helpful,
and knowledgeable fishermen. they were among the first to do the floats
on the tennessee tailwaters (watauga and s. holston), and they have been
doing trips to alaska for a long time as well. because they have to make
a living, i'm sure they seek and provide trips that will prove
successful for their sports. but, they also like out-of-the way,
less-crowded, and unique spots. they also do bonefishing trips to the
bahamas and keys. i like them both, but i'd rather tag along on a trip
like you guys took. of course, i'd prefer better weather g.

I've heard about cabins in the Tongas National Forest in SE Alaska. Usually
they come with a boat, and sometimes they come with good fishing. I don't
think they provide the kind of float trip option we had, unless you can find a
string of cabins on some river and schedule in advance your camps. I haven't
heard of such a thing in AK.

i've been looking at those a bit. found one on a lake or bay with a
boat, sitting on a point where a stream (fish creek, i think) flowed
into the lake. looked pleasant enough, but i've no idea what would work
best. probably won't know until i go out once or twice. i think i'll try
to contact the fella from nc who moved out there and get a few ideas
from him as well.

jeff
jeff

Chas
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