The Figure 8 Cast

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote


I'm always game to try new cast with a single handed rod. If anyone
would like to share casting techniques, please do so.

fwiw,



The two I use most often are the Big Splat Cast and the Tangled Mess Cast
.... I don't have the writing skill to clearly explain the intricate
movements of each, but thankfully, the cast names themselves do a good job
of conveying the results.


I use those casts quite often myself

Jeremy Moe

"Dawn Moe" wrote in message
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote


I'm always game to try new cast with a single handed rod. If anyone
would like to share casting techniques, please do so.

fwiw,



The two I use most often are the Big Splat Cast and the Tangled Mess Cast
.... I don't have the writing skill to clearly explain the intricate
movements of each, but thankfully, the cast names themselves do a good
job of conveying the results.


I use those casts quite often myself

Jeremy Moe


The key to the tangled mess, is "STOP" immediately after casting the first
tangle.
It's usually on the forward cast, as soon as the line tangles, I stop, reel
in the line with the tangle about three
feet away from the tip of the rod and patiently untangle. Usually it's only
one loop.
The worst case is if you tangle then continue to keep casting it compounds
the tangled into a real mess.

On windy days, two things to prevent tangles (wind knots).
Cast side arm, keeping the cast low if you can. When practicing I throw
loops a foot off the ground
and found the wind to be less of a bother.
Second is to speed up the cast, by arm strength, and/or back and forward
haul.
fwiw,
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"Dawn Moe" wrote in message
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote


I'm always game to try new cast with a single handed rod. If anyone
would like to share casting techniques, please do so.

fwiw,



The two I use most often are the Big Splat Cast and the Tangled Mess
Cast .... I don't have the writing skill to clearly explain the
intricate movements of each, but thankfully, the cast names themselves
do a good job of conveying the results.


I use those casts quite often myself

Jeremy Moe


The key to the tangled mess, is "STOP" immediately after casting the first
tangle.
It's usually on the forward cast, as soon as the line tangles, I stop,
reel in the line with the tangle about three
feet away from the tip of the rod and patiently untangle. Usually it's
only one loop.
The worst case is if you tangle then continue to keep casting it compounds
the tangled into a real mess.

On windy days, two things to prevent tangles (wind knots).
Cast side arm, keeping the cast low if you can. When practicing I throw
loops a foot off the ground
and found the wind to be less of a bother.
Second is to speed up the cast, by arm strength, and/or back and forward
haul.
fwiw,
-tom


My Tangled Mess casts typically happen on my 1st cat after tying on a
different fly or rig. I end up wrapping the leader around itself or the rod
and don't notice until after I attempt to cast. I get too impatient and want
to get my fly back in the water in too much of a hurry. I just need to pay
more attention to where my line is when I am done retying.

Jeremy Moe

"Dawn Moe" wrote in message
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My Tangled Mess casts typically happen on my 1st cat after tying on a
different fly or rig. I end up wrapping the leader around itself or the
rod and don't notice until after I attempt to cast. I get too impatient
and want to get my fly back in the water in too much of a hurry. I just
need to pay more attention to where my line is when I am done retying.

Jeremy Moe


I'm one of the worst casters when it comes to the "two-fly, dropper" which
is why I avoid
the two-fly rig, there wasn't one time that I haven't tangled, including
current tangle.
Now I take my chances with one fly on the line. Nothing ****es me off more
than losing
two flies in one cast. My friend once rigged up 5 wet flies and lost them
all in one shot, this was after bragging
how good the set-up was. That was $1.75 per fly x 5. I love teasing him
about it, asking when he's going to break that record.
fwiw,
-tom

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:54:22 GMT, "Dawn Moe" wrote:



My Tangled Mess casts typically happen on my 1st cat after tying on a
different fly or rig. I end up wrapping the leader around itself or the rod
and don't notice until after I attempt to cast. I get too impatient and want
to get my fly back in the water in too much of a hurry. I just need to pay
more attention to where my line is when I am done retying.

FWIW, you might want to "pay more attention to where your line is"
regardless of the status of your retying. If you're not sure of where
your line is and what it's doing, you're gonna have problems casting. If
experience/"feel" can't yet guide you or you simply get momentarily
"lost," your eyes can tell you (and so, always wear some form of eye
protection when casting), so don't be reluctant to turn your head and
look. Remember, the line IS the cast, and with "out of forward sight"
casts, if the back is right, the forward stands a pretty good chance,
but if the back is a mess, the forward stands very little. IMO, the
"always in sight" aspect is one reason roll casts tend to be easy for
most folks.

HTH,
R

Jeremy Moe

Tom Nakashima wrote:

The key to the tangled mess, is "STOP" immediately after casting the first
tangle.

Tom's right Jeremy, stop.
Try listening for the line travelling through the air it sounds
different when a tangle forms.


Steve

On 8 Dec 2006 12:09:47 -0800, "Stephen Welsh"
wrote:


Tom Nakashima wrote:

The key to the tangled mess, is "STOP" immediately after casting the first
tangle.

Tom's right Jeremy, stop.

I wasn't going to make an issue of it when I read it, but now I'm
curious - why would you guys think anyone would continue attempting to
cast with a tangled mess, or have I mis-read/understood what Tom wrote?

TC,
R

Try listening for the line travelling through the air it sounds
different when a tangle forms.


Steve

Tom Nakashima wrote:

The key to the tangled mess, is "STOP" immediately after casting the first
tangle.

Tom's right Jeremy, stop.
Try listening for the line travelling through the air it sounds
different when a tangle forms.


Steve

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"Larry L" wrote

The two I use most often are the Big Splat Cast and the Tangled Mess Cast
.... I don't have the writing skill to clearly explain the intricate
movements of each, but thankfully, the cast names themselves do a good job
of conveying the results.
Indian Joe adds--you forgot the low limb and rhododendron grab cast
which are strong parts of my repertoire. Both are often used when I miss
setting the hook .

Tom Nakashima wrote:

I'm always game to try new cast with a single handed rod. If anyone would
like to share casting techniques, please do so.

You can do all of the spey casts with a single-handed rod. It's like
roll casting on steroids. I recommend Simon Gawesworth's video.

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