Hypothermia/ neoprene waders?

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was just curious, has anyone ever had or come close to Hypothermia while
fishing in their waders?....

Well, it's never happened to ME......but, yes, that is by FAR the most
common scenario.

Wolfgang
i mean, come on, gentlemen.......let's be honest here.

Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was just curious, has anyone ever had or come close to Hypothermia while
fishing in their waders?
All I have is a set of breathable lightweight waders, but I layer pretty
heavily in extreme cold water conditions, and so far the cold hasn't
bothered me to the point of shivering. I usually out of the water before
that, but there were times when I'm in the water for a long period of time.
A few of my friends suggested I should get a good set of neoprene waders,
just haven't forked the bucks yet. Others have told me neoprene is a waste
of money. It might be handy to have a 2nd pair of waders.
Comments on neoprene waders? Good brands?
fwiw,
-tom

I have both. Fished in 24 degree temp 34 degree water yesterday with
the breathables.
10 to 20 mph winds. Used the neoprenes the day before. It was much
warmer. 26 degrees.
I noticed no difference. The only thing that got cold was my hands. If
you layer the breathbles with under armor, then fleece, they are just
as warm as neoprene. I think the best
would be breathable with attached boots. Hard to find correct size for
me though.

"pete z" wrote in message
ups.com...


I have both. Fished in 24 degree temp 34 degree water yesterday with
the breathables.
10 to 20 mph winds. Used the neoprenes the day before. It was much
warmer. 26 degrees.
I noticed no difference. The only thing that got cold was my hands. If
you layer the breathbles with under armor, then fleece, they are just
as warm as neoprene. I think the best
would be breathable with attached boots. Hard to find correct size for
me though.


I very much enjoyed reading all the post. Good test Pete, I believe you
summed it up for me.
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
I was just curious, has anyone ever had or come close to Hypothermia while
fishing in their waders?
All I have is a set of breathable lightweight waders, but I layer pretty
heavily in extreme cold water conditions, and so far the cold hasn't
bothered me to the point of shivering. I usually out of the water before
that, but there were times when I'm in the water for a long period of
time. A few of my friends suggested I should get a good set of neoprene
waders, just haven't forked the bucks yet. Others have told me neoprene is
a waste of money. It might be handy to have a 2nd pair of waders.
Comments on neoprene waders? Good brands?
few,
-tom


I have always used breathable waders w fleece or Patagonia underwear in
differing weights depending upon the temps
I do not like the feel of neoprene!
and I have always been warm enough even on the coldest days.
I find it much more supple or flexible layered in this fashion than with
neoprene.

Fleece will also retain heat when wet.
- The above I learned from experience - having flipped over a raft in early
spring on the North Fork of the Flathead River
a few years ago.
My wet fleece garments kept me warm

Fred

On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:04:05 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I was just curious, has anyone ever had or come close to Hypothermia while
fishing in their waders?

I've never willingly gotten anywhere close to hypothermia doing
anything, and of the few things I would risk getting even close to
hypothermia trying to accomplish, no recreational activities are on the
list. Hypothermia while fishing isn't "an accident," it is the result
of willingly-made poor choice(s), much like the poor ******* who killed
himself and damned near killed his family recently (in Oregon).

All I have is a set of breathable lightweight waders, but I layer pretty
heavily in extreme cold water conditions, and so far the cold hasn't
bothered me to the point of shivering. I usually out of the water before
that, but there were times when I'm in the water for a long period of time.
A few of my friends suggested I should get a good set of neoprene waders,
just haven't forked the bucks yet. Others have told me neoprene is a waste
of money. It might be handy to have a 2nd pair of waders.
Comments on neoprene waders? Good brands?
fwiw,
-tom

Uh, yeah...thank God someone invented Neoprene so that people could
survive fishing in cold weather...

If you simply wish to take advantage of this or that "modern"
technology, fine, but don't lose sight of two things: 1. People managed
to not only survive, but do fairly well without any of it, and 2. If
what you have ain't broke, fixing it really isn't a necessity. IOW,
nobody _needs_ Neoprene waders. If you feel you need "peer approval" to
go buy what you want, if in fact you just _want_ Neoprene waders, why?

TC,
R

wrote:
Hypothermia while fishing isn't "an accident," it is the result
of willingly-made poor choice(s), much like the poor ******* who killed
himself and damned near killed his family recently (in Oregon).


That's not fair unless you equate human error to poor choice. After
missing his turn James Kim accidentally drove up a road that is usually
closed in winter. I say accidentally because it has since emerged that
vandals cut the chains to the gates. And after 9 days of sitting in the
wilderness with your gas gone, tires burned, an infant and child
suckling from their mother, I'd offer that most of us would have made
that attempt to walk out for help. Had he survived long enough to go
one more mile there was food and shelter to last them the whole winter.
Very sad.

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On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:57:24 -0500, GM wrote:

wrote:
Hypothermia while fishing isn't "an accident," it is the result
of willingly-made poor choice(s), much like the poor ******* who killed
himself and damned near killed his family recently (in Oregon).


That's not fair unless you equate human error to poor choice. After
missing his turn James Kim accidentally drove up a road that is usually
closed in winter. I say accidentally because it has since emerged that
vandals cut the chains to the gates. And after 9 days of sitting in the
wilderness with your gas gone, tires burned, an infant and child
suckling from their mother, I'd offer that most of us would have made
that attempt to walk out for help. Had he survived long enough to go
one more mile there was food and shelter to last them the whole winter.
Very sad.

It is very sad. But anyone who makes the choice to take a route they
are uncertain about, in those conditions, when other much safer routes
are readily available has made a poor choice, and when they choose to do
it with an infant and a small child, it's another poor choice. It
doesn't make he or he and his wife wrong or "guilty" of anything, but it
was still a poor choice.

TC,
R

wrote:
On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:57:24 -0500, GM wrote:

wrote:
Hypothermia while fishing isn't "an accident," it is the result
of willingly-made poor choice(s), much like the poor ******* who killed
himself and damned near killed his family recently (in Oregon).


That's not fair unless you equate human error to poor choice. After
missing his turn James Kim accidentally drove up a road that is usually
closed in winter. I say accidentally because it has since emerged that
vandals cut the chains to the gates. And after 9 days of sitting in the
wilderness with your gas gone, tires burned, an infant and child
suckling from their mother, I'd offer that most of us would have made
that attempt to walk out for help. Had he survived long enough to go
one more mile there was food and shelter to last them the whole winter.
Very sad.

It is very sad. But anyone who makes the choice to take a route they
are uncertain about, in those conditions, when other much safer routes
are readily available has made a poor choice, and when they choose to do
it with an infant and a small child, it's another poor choice. It
doesn't make he or he and his wife wrong or "guilty" of anything, but it
was still a poor choice.

O.k., anybody, what's funnier than dicklet in ROFF bleating about poor
choices?

Wolfgang
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