Barak Hussein Obama? or Barak Hussein Osama?

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:33:17 -0500, GM wrote:

Cyli wrote:

I do hope that Hillary will never run for president, nor even vice.
First, I don't think a woman can be elected president any time in the
next decade or two. Second, Hillary has so much baggage that it'd bog
her right down.

The buzz around Barack is happening too early and he realizes this, as
evidenced in his own comments at last week's NH book signing, town-hall
thing.

Or his Bears' pregame "announcement"...

His flame could burn bright and brief, at least for the 08
contest. I do like his message though: amongst other things, the
audacious hope that a campaign can be fought with a respect for the
opponent. I just wonder if he'll still walk on water when he realizes he
has to go negative, either as a first strike, or in retaliation?

If he joins up with McCain, they could both ignore whoever the opponents
wind up being. If it does wind up being he and Hillary in a contest for
Dem nominee, he won't need to "go negative" - the GOP and everyone else
to the right of, oh, say, Michael Moore will do it for him. And
speaking of idiots, Hillary and the Clintonistas seem to be right on
schedule to **** up Hillary's chances by continuing to do what they do -
attempting to rat**** _anyone_, including the voters, that they see as
"in the way."

If he's the Dem nominee, his objective negatives (no real experience, no
real record at any level - no "yardstick"), combined with subjective
negatives (he's a Dem, he's too black, he's not black enough, he's not
"liberal"/"conservative" enough, he's too "liberal"/ "conservative,"
he's too young, etc.), will likely combine to get him defeated THIS TIME
if the GOP puts up anyone short of maybe Pat Robertson. If it's McCain,
Obama's done. They are both, as pols go, good men, but McCain has the
name and the record, and if he goes (really) negative on McCain, he's
_really_ done. IMO, though, if they are steering their own ships,
neither would go unduly (and subjectively) negative on the other.

If he's smart, whether he joins McCain or not, he will take a page from
his playbook: don't go (subjectively) negative _against anyone_ and be
thought of as one of the "good guys" by the entire center.

And anyone wanna bet that Hillary (or her campaign) will bring up his
skin color at least once?

R

Cyli wrote:

I do hope that Hillary will never run for president, nor even vice.
First, I don't think a woman can be elected president any time in the
next decade or two. Second, Hillary has so much baggage that it'd bog
her right down.

Not that I disagree with you, but evidently at least one big name on
the right has a different take. It appears DeLay thinks Hillary will be
elected in 2008 and will tab Obama as her veep:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=28995

Of course he goes on to blame it on the media working in concert
with a "liberal coalition" run by Carville, Blumenthal, Begala and Ickes.

He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".


Chuck Vance (of course this could all just be scare tactics on
his part)

Conan The Librarian wrote in news:elp2ei$11bm$1
@news.swt.edu:

Cyli wrote:

I do hope that Hillary will never run for president, nor even vice.
First, I don't think a woman can be elected president any time in the
next decade or two. Second, Hillary has so much baggage that it'd bog
her right down.

Not that I disagree with you, but evidently at least one big name on
the right has a different take. It appears DeLay thinks Hillary will be
elected in 2008 and will tab Obama as her veep:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=28995

Of course he goes on to blame it on the media working in concert
with a "liberal coalition" run by Carville, Blumenthal, Begala and Ickes.

He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".


Chuck Vance (of course this could all just be scare tactics on
his part)



He's just spreading rumors to secretly promote anyone who he thinks will be
strong on prison reform.

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Scott
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Conan The Librarian wrote:
It appears DeLay thinks Hillary will be
elected in 2008 and will tab Obama as her veep:

I would humbly suggest that taking anything the bugman says at face
value would be foolish.

Joe F.

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".

Well this alone assures him of my vote!

Op

Chuck Vance (of course this could all just be scare tactics on his
part)

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:29:13 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

Cyli wrote:

I do hope that Hillary will never run for president, nor even vice.
First, I don't think a woman can be elected president any time in the
next decade or two. Second, Hillary has so much baggage that it'd bog
her right down.

Not that I disagree with you, but evidently at least one big name on
the right has a different take.

"Big name on the right?" Please. DeLay is a crooked little turd who
got a well-deserved flush down the drain.

It appears DeLay thinks Hillary will be elected in 2008 and will tab
Obama as her veep:
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=28995

Golly! Whoda thunk DeLay could imagine something so original?

Of course he goes on to blame it on the media working in concert
with a "liberal coalition" run by Carville, Blumenthal, Begala and Ickes.

He also says Obama has the record of a "leftist-Marxist".

Well, to give credit where it's due, he's right about that - Obama's
record as an elected US legislator is very similar to that of Karl
Marx...or Henry VIII...

Chuck Vance (of course this could all just be scare tactics on
his part)

Yeah, he's scared his silly-assed little blog managed to con the only
100 suckers out of 52 bucks it'll ever be able to con...

R

Opus typed:
Has anyone else seen how the RIGHT is trying to use Obama's name
against him?

It's really quite comical.

Ted Kennedy is on the right? And no one told me?
http://latefinal.com/archives/2005/01/osama_obama.html
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Tim
(if *anything* would make me dress to the left, that would be the
thing.)
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"Tim J." wrote in message
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Opus typed:
Has anyone else seen how the RIGHT is trying to use Obama's name
against him?

It's really quite comical.

Ted Kennedy is on the right? And no one told me?
http://latefinal.com/archives/2005/01/osama_obama.html
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TL,
Tim
(if *anything* would make me dress to the left, that would be the thing.)

Okay, I stand corrected. Though I was actually thinking of this exchange:

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/election...ame_is_hussein

Although, in my defense, I always have said that both the Dems and the
Repubs are morons.

Ted Kennedy is such a class act too!

Opus wrote:

Has anyone else seen how the RIGHT is trying to use Obama's name against
him?

It's really quite comical.

Op

Ted Kennedy did a pretty good job on his own.

Obama needs a few more years under his belt.

"xorbit" wrote in message
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Opus wrote:

Has anyone else seen how the RIGHT is trying to use Obama's name against
him?

It's really quite comical.

Op

Ted Kennedy did a pretty good job on his own.

As Mr. Tim Johnson pointed out to me earlier.

Obama needs a few more years under his belt.

Agreed. I'd also like to know how far back his family ties to Saddam
Hussein go?

Obama just barely is a citizen, I might add:

Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Hawaii Statehood: August 21, 1959
http://www.hawaiischoolreports.com/h.../statehood.htm

Op