Trolling motor power

make that three years - time really flies!
Ronnie

Ronnie wrote:
bleve wrote:
Ronnie wrote:
bleve wrote:
Hello all,

I have a Skeeter ZX225 which is a 20ft boat. I purchased this boat used
and it had an older 67lb Motorguide on it. This motor will not move the
boat in windy conditions.

I want to stay with Motorguide so I don't have to drill new holes for
the mount. From talking to a salesperson, they tell me the 82lb pro
series should be good enough to move my boat around. The question is,
will I be happy with this, Or should I go 36 volts to the 109lb version?

-Bennett

I have a Skeeter 225 with a Yamaha 225 on it, and the Tour Guide 82
pound thrust. Never needed a stronger motor, but I don't fish rivers.
If I fished flowing water I would go to the 109 but if I can keep the
motor in the water it will hold the boat.

Thanks Ronnie. This is what I thought as well. I did not want to add
another battery and I don't fish rivers. There is some running water on
Big Lake Toho that I fish, but it is not rushing water like a river
would have. Do you feel the motor is adequate in strong wind gusts over
10mph? As others had pointed out in this thread, the 109 would be
plenty of power for all conditions. Though I am only really concerned
about wind. If the 82lb works well in the wind for you, then I would
probably be happy with it.

-Bennett

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


I have had this outfit two years next spring and have been in wind
twice that I could not move against but could hold in place. Both
times the waves were bad enough that the front of the boat would dip
water every 3rd wave or so. Had the motor down as far as it would go
but it still came out of the water a good bit, and that is what kept me
from being able to make progress. All I could do is hold in place. I
don't think a stronger motor would have helped much those two times.

If your boat is set up like mine with a three bank charger a 3rd
battery would be a squeeze.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

"bleve" wrote in message SNIP

Bob, I am wondering if the 109 would be overkill on the lakes here in
central Florida?

***I've fished Florida lakes in the past. It's good to have the added power
when chopping through heavy weeds.

SNIP

I always encourage people to go bigger on their TM but then I fish a
river system where half the time we are pulling our biggest bags out of
the brush along the main river channel. I also run group 31 batteries
only. I need them.

This is the rule I've been hearing as well. Go as big as possible.

***I fish primarily on inland lakes, but on occasion I do fish rivers. Even
though it might be overkill, I prefer to have more power than needed. It's
always been my thinking that "it's better to have the power and not need it,
than to need the power and not have it."


I really think an 82 is barely adequate on a 20' boat.

Not according to the Motorguide rep that I talked to while visiting a shop
in Lakeland Fl. He thought the 109 would be overkill for a 20' boat and
this is why I was querying the group here.

***See above. Sure, now you might only fish inland lakes in 10 mph winds,
but what about days when the fish are really hammering, only it's extremely
windy and the fish are only hitting on a windblown point? Are you ready to
call it a day because your trolling motor won't handle it? What about the
possibility of taking the boat on vacation and fishing a river?

Plus, as someone has already said, you don't have to run it on high if you
don't want (or need) to. I've found I get better battery life using a
larger than needed motor at a slower speed than using a smaller motor and
needing to increase the speed to maintain boat control.

I also like to use my trolling motor to move quickly from one spot to the
next if the distance isn't too great. I have a 36 volt, 109 lb. thrust
MotorGuide, powered by three Type 31 Interstate batteries. One is the
cranking battery too. With my 20'3", 8'6" beamed FastCat, the trolling
motor will pull me and two clients at 4.3 mph gps speed! It makes it simple
to shoot to a different fishing area quickly without firing up the outboard.

I say if you have the room for either a 4th battery (three deep cycle and a
starting) or willing to install 3 type 31 batteries, do it and go with the
larger system. You won't regret it, I haven't!
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"WARREN WOLK" wrote in message
news:wwEkh.6924$9H4.2357@trndny07...
I think the 109 is the way to go - just saw one sell on Ebay for $750 new
in the box.

You will notice that I didn't give a glowing recommendation on the 82 pound
motor, I simply said it "should" work.

You know me Warren, "More horsepower, arh arh, ARH!!!"
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Bob La Londe wrote:
"bleve" wrote in message

This is something that I had not considered. I think that this is quite
feasible and may just go this route after all. So I am guessing you setup
something like this....

-----+ ---- positive to TM
| |
| |
-----
-----+
| |
| |
-----
-----+ ---- positive to crank & acc
| | | |
----- ---- netative to TM and crank & acc


Yep. Here is another picture.
http://www.yumabassman.com/bulletinb...opic.php?t=445

Good luck. If you really never deal with current and 10MPH is the worst
wind you deal with the 82 may be adequate, but remember if you get the 109
that doesn't mean you have to run at max. Only when you need it.



That picture is a bit better

WARREN WOLK wrote:
I think the 109 is the way to go - just saw one sell on Ebay for $750 new in
the box.

Warren

This is all good information. I will not buy another motor on ebay.
Just purchased a 82lb digital steer on ebay from the same person that
sells most of the motors on there and it had issues out of the box. The
seller stated a warranty of 90 days, but when I took it to the repair
shop the laughed and said that it did not come with a Motorguide
warranty. So I sent it back to the seller and looking to buy something
new.

The 82lb that was shipped to me from the ebay seller had less power than
my 67lb. I was told by the repair shop that it had at least one bad
board that they knew of that was causing it to not get full power. Also
the motor was a 2002 model being sold as new. Another problem was the
constant-on did not work. So I really did not get to experience how an
82lb would feel.



"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...
"bleve" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

I have a Skeeter ZX225 which is a 20ft boat. I purchased this boat used
and it had an older 67lb Motorguide on it. This motor will not move the
boat in windy conditions.

I want to stay with Motorguide so I don't have to drill new holes for the
mount. From talking to a salesperson, they tell me the 82lb pro series
should be good enough to move my boat around. The question is, will I be
happy with this, Or should I go 36 volts to the 109lb version?

-Bennett
The 82 pound motor should work, but I've been running the 109 lb./36 volt
version and it's a beast! If that motor won't hold, you have no business
being on the water.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

"bleve" wrote in message
...
WARREN WOLK wrote:
I think the 109 is the way to go - just saw one sell on Ebay for $750 new
in the box.

Warren

This is all good information. I will not buy another motor on ebay. Just
purchased a 82lb digital steer on ebay from the same person that sells
most of the motors on there and it had issues out of the box. The seller
stated a warranty of 90 days, but when I took it to the repair shop the
laughed and said that it did not come with a Motorguide warranty. So I
sent it back to the seller and looking to buy something new.

The 82lb that was shipped to me from the ebay seller had less power than
my 67lb. I was told by the repair shop that it had at least one bad board
that they knew of that was causing it to not get full power. Also the
motor was a 2002 model being sold as new. Another problem was the
constant-on did not work. So I really did not get to experience how an
82lb would feel.



Ebay is a mixed bag. I have had mostly good luck, but I always ask specific
questions of sellers and if they do not answer my exact question fully I
don't buy from them. That being said. The Trolling Motor Doctor has a rock
solid reputation. http://www.trollingmotordoctor.com Their prices will be
comparable to or better than Bass Pro Shops, and if you want to gamble on a
rebuilt motor they may have some available also, but theirs will go out the
door fully functional and they would never sell you a rebuilt claiming its
new. They are also a full parts stocking warranty center.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:26:05 -0500, bleve wrote:

This is all good information. I will not buy another motor on ebay.
Just purchased a 82lb digital steer on ebay from the same person that
sells most of the motors on there and it had issues out of the box. The
seller stated a warranty of 90 days, but when I took it to the repair
shop the laughed and said that it did not come with a Motorguide
warranty. So I sent it back to the seller and looking to buy something
new.

The 82lb that was shipped to me from the ebay seller had less power than
my 67lb. I was told by the repair shop that it had at least one bad
board that they knew of that was causing it to not get full power. Also
the motor was a 2002 model being sold as new. Another problem was the
constant-on did not work. So I really did not get to experience how an
82lb would feel.

You should post the name of the ebay seller to allow others to avoid
the same problems you encountered!

Dan

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www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.SecretWeaponLures.com
A proud charter member of "PETAF", People for Eating Tasty Animals and Fish!!!

Dan, danl, Redbeard uh Greybeard now wrote:
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:26:05 -0500, bleve wrote:
This is all good information. I will not buy another motor on ebay.
Just purchased a 82lb digital steer on ebay from the same person that
sells most of the motors on there and it had issues out of the box. The
seller stated a warranty of 90 days, but when I took it to the repair
shop the laughed and said that it did not come with a Motorguide
warranty. So I sent it back to the seller and looking to buy something
new.

The 82lb that was shipped to me from the ebay seller had less power than
my 67lb. I was told by the repair shop that it had at least one bad
board that they knew of that was causing it to not get full power. Also
the motor was a 2002 model being sold as new. Another problem was the
constant-on did not work. So I really did not get to experience how an
82lb would feel.

You should post the name of the ebay seller to allow others to avoid
the same problems you encountered!

Dan,

Well if they make good and give me my money back, I don't want to slam
them too bad. I will post it, but will wait to see if they honor giving
me my money back.

-Bennett

Dan

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1996 HD Sportster 1200S. N9JBF. Bass fishing Aficionado!
www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.SecretWeaponLures.com
A proud charter member of "PETAF", People for Eating Tasty Animals and Fish!!!

You can also contact E-bay and they can help if you dont get the results
that you want.
--
Chris S
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Well if they make good and give me my money back, I don't want to slam
them too bad. I will post it, but will wait to see if they honor giving
me my money back.

-Bennett

Dan

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1996 HD Sportster 1200S. N9JBF. Bass fishing Aficionado!
www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.SecretWeaponLures.com
A proud charter member of "PETAF", People for Eating Tasty Animals and
Fish!!!

bleve wrote:
Hello all,

I have a Skeeter ZX225 which is a 20ft boat. I purchased this boat used
and it had an older 67lb Motorguide on it. This motor will not move the
boat in windy conditions.

I want to stay with Motorguide so I don't have to drill new holes for
the mount. From talking to a salesperson, they tell me the 82lb pro
series should be good enough to move my boat around. The question is,
will I be happy with this, Or should I go 36 volts to the 109lb version?

-Bennett

Fished today with a guide on Lake Oconee here in Georgia - he has a 21
foot Triton with a 225 Merc on it. His trolling motor is an 82 pound
thrust Tour Edition Motor Guide. I asked him if he ever felt like he
needed a bigger trolling motor and he said no. He guides many days each
year and spends lots of time on the water.

Al Bassett is the guide and he also fishes some tournament trails. This
fall he spent a week long trip on Okeechobee practicing and fishing a
tournament. He said the 82 was fine on all the trips he has made there,
too.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com