The Color Red

Your problems with FC are hard to figure. Except for bad experience with
Berkley Vanish,
I've had success with it.

bill

"johnval1" wrote in message
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Please don't get me started on fluorocarbon Chris. I have learned to hate
the stuff worse than death itself. Stiff, fragile, difficult to knot, I
find this material has few redeeming qualities. I have tried many
different brands and have been dissatisfied with them all. I just loaded
up some Seaguar for my last effort with this stuff. If it fails, I will
retreat to mono and braid for whatever I need.

It is my understanding is that it has to do with light reflection, the
hook/crankbait reflects the light (red color), the line does not reflect the
light, thus becomes hard to see.


"johnval1" wrote in message
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While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster,
and having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad
for Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish.
OK, this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.

John,

I use Seaguar CarbonPro,Seaguar GrandMax, and P-Line CFX. Never had any
issues with breakage outside of issues that were my own fault. Like not
properly wetting the line before cinching down my knot. Vanish is
another story. The stuff is absolute garbage, and if I could find the
email from Berkley that they sent me in regards to the issue, you would
see a direct quote echoing my feelings of Vanish, right from Berkley.
I fish fluoro through zebra mussels daily, with tubes, crankbaits, and
spider grubs, and only time I ever break my line is when I get lazy and
do not retie. I use all the way down to 2lb test for Browns and
steelhead in the winter if the water is crystal clear, and again, never
have an issue with breakage. Also, Frog Hair fluoro has proven to be
very strong, but it is very expensive (like Grand Max.).
Trust me, after using Vanish, I was very very down on Fluoro, and was
ready to switch back to Mono for everything, or P-Line fluoroclear, but
since committing to Seaguar and CFX I wouldn't hesitate picking it up
during a tournament with money on the line.

Chris

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
John,

I use Seaguar CarbonPro,Seaguar GrandMax, and P-Line CFX. Never had any
issues with breakage outside of issues that were my own fault. Like not
properly wetting the line before cinching down my knot. Vanish is another
story. The stuff is absolute garbage, and if I could find the email from
Berkley that they sent me in regards to the issue, you would see a direct
quote echoing my feelings of Vanish, right from Berkley.

I follow the field manual on care and use of FC. I think you and Bill have
hit on part of my problem. I was spooled up with Vanish and the stuff is
rotten indeed. I do like the 15 lb Vanish Leader material to make spinning
harnesses however.

I have also tried Yo-Zuri FC and Yo-Zuri Hybrid and have been less than
impressed with their handling characteristics. I am going out tomorrow with
Seaguar CarbonPro to see how it handles. It feels entirely different from
the others I have tried so it may work out OK.

On Wed, 09 May 2007 19:12:52 GMT, "johnval1"
wrote:

While I was in the reading room perusing the latest issue of BassMaster, and
having read every article 2 or 3 times, I noticed the Shakespeare ad for
Cajun Red line. The ad states the advantage with this line is its
invisibility, particularly after 3 feet of depth where the fish cannot see
the line. This is due to the water filtering out red on the lower end of
the light spectrum, rendering the line more or less invisible to fish. OK,
this makes sense to me, sort of.

I must have half a dozen crankbaits of various sizes in red, most of which
run a depths greater than 3 feet. I have caught good numbers of fish on
these red cranks. Now, how in the hell is this possible if the bait is
mostly or entirely invisible to the fish? I must be missing something in
this equation.



Cajun Red is nothing but a sales gimmick for "non-thinking" anglers.
Red is the first color to disappear, I think everyone knows that,
but what has that got to do with line visibility?

Why not start out with a clear, water-colored line???
Oh no, instead Cajun dyes the line Red, then tells you not to worry,
just wait around until the red disappears.
Okay, when the color Red has finally been shrouded by water depth,
Cajun line is finally as invisible as clear, water-colored line
started out, when it first hit the water!!
I can't believe that anyone would actually fall for that crock!

John