beginner equipment

In article . com,
Hilbert wrote:

Hello,

I'm just starting with fly fishing and wanted some advice on what
equipment to get. I'm going to fish mostly small streams in NH, for
trout.

I like the Tioga reels from Teton. I'm not sure which size to get #4?
#6? #8?

With rods, I have no idea. I'd like to find something well priced, in
the under $200.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Hilbert

Do not get a teton reel. The owner of the company, Wes Amment, has
screwed over every sales rep that has ever worked for him. He doesnt
pay them. SImple as that. Jon Jovich, Larry Iuppa... if you dont
believe me call your fly shop and ask them who the last rep for teton
was, get their number and ask them. Every single one of them will tell
you he is a con man.

As far as fly line, reel, rod: Get the cheapest (dont get a walmart rod)
you can afford since money is an issue. Use the money you save for
casting lessons. Right now someone could give you a z axis fly rod, a
Scientific Anglers mastery expert distance fly line, and a $500 reel and
you would not cast one bit better than if you had a $15 walmart fly
line, a tfo series 1 rod, and a $35 SIerra reel.

So here is your outfit:
tfo 2 piece series 1 5 weight $99
Okuma sierra 5/6 reel (6/7 is ok as well) $35-40
Either a $15 walmart fly line, probably will be cortland or Orvis, or a
$40 beginner line from a flyshop,****

**** If you splurge, PROMISE me you will get casting lessons, you can
get a hour casting lesson for $25-$50, and about 4 seperate hours worth
will do you a ton of good, and the above setup has saved you that much.
After you are a intermediate caster you wont be disapointed with your
tfo rod, at about a year you might want to upgrade to a fly line like a
SA trout.

In article ,
Dave LaCourse wrote:

Here's an ideal rod/reel outfit from Waldo, ready to fish with line,
backing, and a leader, plus he'll throw in a dozen flies.

http://ezflyfish.com/ezsmstou.html

I cannot attest to the St. Croix rod, personally, but I've heard good
words about it and the Ross reel.

Let us know what you decide.

Dave

You should ask him to special order you the tfo series 1 2 piece which
is $99, then buy the ross at $35 which includes flyline (and I assume
backing), and you are ready to go at $134, which puts you $66 below just
what you were willing to pay for a rod, which will get you at least one
private casting lesson.

In article ,
"Wayne Harrison" wrote:


i have a st.croix that i bought on the cheap to use for warm water pond
fishing that has been very satisfactory.

in fact, i prefer its action to the telephone pole replicas that are
foisted upon the public by the sage company, and fished by lucky yankees.


How does it fish compared to a tfo? More importantly, would a beginner
who saved his money to take 2 casting lessons be able to tell the
difference?

In article ,
wrote:


IMO, for smaller trout on smaller streams, the reel won't matter much;
get a smallish one (in the Tioga, the 4 or 6) in your budget.

I would disagree about the TIoga. I wont bore you with my rant again,
but the tioga is $119, and as you say the reel doesnt matter much for a
small stream. He can get Waldo's Ross for $35 which includes a fly
line. That savings in flyline and reel is going to be about $100, which
will give him 2 to 3 private 1 hour casting lessons, which will help him
out a ton.

nospam wrote in news:nospam-2A95C1.12521120082007
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:

Do not get a teton reel. The owner of the company, Wes Amment, has
screwed over every sales rep that has ever worked for him. He doesnt
pay them.


If you're going to say stuff like this, you should at least post your name,
so Wes Amment knows who to sue.

--
Scott
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:07:20 GMT, nospam wrote:

In article ,
wrote:


IMO, for smaller trout on smaller streams, the reel won't matter much;
get a smallish one (in the Tioga, the 4 or 6) in your budget.

I would disagree about the TIoga.

OK, what size Tioga would you recommend?

And a note to the OP - I didn't recommend or disparage any particular
reel, Tioga or otherwise, I merely offered my opinion as which size
Tioga would be appropriate based on your post.

I wont bore you with my rant again,

Um, well, I won't disagree that some anonymous rant would bore me AND I
say that while fully admitting I have no ****in' idea with what you
aren't going to attempt to bore me...

Guess who...(hint - info in the addy)

In article ,
Scott Seidman wrote:

nospam wrote in news:nospam-2A95C1.12521120082007
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:

Do not get a teton reel. The owner of the company, Wes Amment, has
screwed over every sales rep that has ever worked for him. He doesnt
pay them.


If you're going to say stuff like this, you should at least post your name,
so Wes Amment knows who to sue.

Truth is a absolute defense. If anyone owns a Teton reel and does not
want to own a reel from a company that screws over its sales reps, call
up teton and ask who the last 10 sales reps were. I guarantee you every
single one will say that Wes Amment does not pay EVERY SINGLE SALES REP
HE HAS EVER HAD. Jon Kovich, of winston, Larry Iuppa of Echo, snowbee,
airflo, plus every single other rep has ever had.