First Fly Box

OK, we're off and running.

If you were outfitting a fly box for a newbie what would you put in
it? Of course, a lot depends on the target fish and the location, but
in general I'm trying to get a general sense of distributions between
sizes and types. Some of the key parameters:
--how many flies? Dozens and dozens, or maybe just 10-15 to start?
--what distribution of types? a lot of variety, or keep it focused on
the old stand-bys?
--what distribution of sizes? again, a lot of variety with few flies
in each size, or a lot of one size?

In an overindulged world, the answer might be "4 stocked boxes with 8
different sizes of 25 different styles, all with multiple repeats",
but being buried in flies is a bit constrictive.


I'm leaning toward having boxes with about 20 flies in them,
distributed over 4 or 5 types, with maybe 2 of each size. For example;
2 each #16 EHC
2 each #14 EHC
2 each #10 WB (Black)
2 each #12 WB (Black)
2 each #16 Copper John (bronze)
2 each #14 Copper John (bronze)

etc.
But immediately, I start thinking "What about Olive WB? Or Red Copper
Johns? Or other sizes....or more of this size in case its
working...."

Suggestions on a basic starter fly box?

--riverman

On 2 Nov, 01:43, riverman wrote:
OK, we're off and running.

If you were outfitting a fly box for a newbie what would you put in
it? Of course, a lot depends on the target fish and the location, but
in general I'm trying to get a general sense of distributions between
sizes and types. Some of the key parameters:
--how many flies? Dozens and dozens, or maybe just 10-15 to start?
--what distribution of types? a lot of variety, or keep it focused on
the old stand-bys?
--what distribution of sizes? again, a lot of variety with few flies
in each size, or a lot of one size?

In an overindulged world, the answer might be "4 stocked boxes with 8
different sizes of 25 different styles, all with multiple repeats",
but being buried in flies is a bit constrictive.

I'm leaning toward having boxes with about 20 flies in them,
distributed over 4 or 5 types, with maybe 2 of each size. For example;
2 each #16 EHC
2 each #14 EHC
2 each #10 WB (Black)
2 each #12 WB (Black)
2 each #16 Copper John (bronze)
2 each #14 Copper John (bronze)

etc.
But immediately, I start thinking "What about Olive WB? Or Red Copper
Johns? Or other sizes....or more of this size in case its
working...."

Suggestions on a basic starter fly box?

--riverman

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/The-Best-F...00000004042288

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:43:18 -0700, riverman
wrote:

Suggestions on a basic starter fly box?

Mine would contain Harry Mason's Killer Caddis in a couple of sizes.
I have never seen a fly work so well. It's a dry, but after the cdc
gets soaked, fish it as a wet and it will still catch fish. You have
some coming.

Dave

On Nov 2, 9:06 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:43:18 -0700, riverman
wrote:

Suggestions on a basic starter fly box?

Mine would contain Harry Mason's Killer Caddis in a couple of sizes.
I have never seen a fly work so well. It's a dry, but after the cdc
gets soaked, fish it as a wet and it will still catch fish. You have
some coming.

Dave

Dave, you're a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you deeply. :-)

M

On 2 Nov, 02:32, riverman wrote:


Dave, you're a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you deeply. :-)

M



Just wait a while, the dishonourable old ****bag will make sure he
gets a pound of flesh for them!

Don´t drink his beer either!

MC

On Nov 2, 10:40 am, Mike wrote:
On 2 Nov, 02:32, riverman wrote:



Dave, you're a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you deeply. :-)

M



Just wait a while, the dishonourable old ****bag will make sure he
gets a pound of flesh for them!

Don´t drink his beer either!

MC

Well, I guess...

In any case, I can't open your link here at school, but I'd be very
interested in your opinion...for a newbie box that had limited
quantities (say, 20 flies); which would you compromise on: diversity
of sizes, diversity of styles, or diversity of back-ups?

--riverman

On Nov 2, 4:28 pm, riverman wrote:
On Nov 2, 10:40 am, Mike wrote:





On 2 Nov, 02:32, riverman wrote:

Dave, you're a gentleman and a scholar, and I thank you deeply. :-)

M



Just wait a while, the dishonourable old ****bag will make sure he
gets a pound of flesh for them!

Don´t drink his beer either!

MC

Well, I guess...

In any case, I can't open your link here at school, but I'd be very
interested in your opinion...for a newbie box that had limited
quantities (say, 20 flies); which would you compromise on: diversity
of sizes, diversity of styles, or diversity of back-ups?

--riverman- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Heh heh. Now that I'm home and CAN open the attachment, I see that you
seem to be quite prescient. How clever of you.
:-)

I've never seen a Greenwell's Glory or a Snipe and Purple (although I
can attest to a lot of success with other soft hackles in Sweden), but
you've answered my question with your article. It seems that a narrow
diversity of flies, in a few sizes, with 2 or 3 of each, is the
recommendation. I think I agree.

Thanks, Mike.

--riverman

riverman a écrit :
OK, we're off and running.

If you were outfitting a fly box for a newbie what would you put in
it? Of course, a lot depends on the target fish and the location, but
in general I'm trying to get a general sense of distributions between
sizes and types. Some of the key parameters:
--how many flies? Dozens and dozens, or maybe just 10-15 to start?
--what distribution of types? a lot of variety, or keep it focused on
the old stand-bys?
--what distribution of sizes? again, a lot of variety with few flies
in each size, or a lot of one size?


Hi,

Here's my 0,02$ on the matter.

To your list I'd had a few Casula Dress and BeadHead Casual dress, they
look like nothing and everything around here (Quebec). I prefer nymph
and small ones (#12 & #14). A few easy dry, any CDC pattern is good
since it dosn't need floatant to float. Around here a good dragonfly
nymph is essential and loads of wooly bugger in a variety of color, fish
on a slow retrieve.

I would go for colour variation more than size variation. When you try
to match a hatch size, colour and pattern are important, less when your
a starter and you want to experiement.

--
Hope to read you soon,

Denis
www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd

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