The Mayfly

On 9-Nov-2007, Mike wrote:

Gehrke is incapable of civil discourse, has been since the first
time he showed up here. I realize that he is in ill health and
having a difficult time, he is to be pitied and perhaps even
indulged but not to an extent that corrupts and coarsens the
conduct of ROFF.


I am glad that I never had to deal w Gehrke
Unfortuanetel i did buy some of his stuff
He sounds like w ****ing winner also


Fred

On 10 Nov, 05:49, wrote:


I am glad that I never had to deal w Gehrke
Unfortuanetel i did buy some of his stuff
He sounds like w ****ing winner also

Fred

He was more than a little crazy. He always had his eye on a dollar as
well, a real shyster. He got up to quite a few nasty tricks. His
propaganda was brilliant though. Gink is probably still one of the
most popular floatants on the market. I don´t hear much about his
other stuff, but I assume the family are still marketing it. He was
obviously quite ill towards the end, and that made him even worse. For
quite a long time various people tried to help him, but it did no good
really.

His web site still exists; http://www.gink.com/ and his company
still appears to be trading.

some other interesting stuff as well; http://www.flyfishingjournal.com/archives/pr200001.htm

Maybe that´s what´s wrong with Kennyboy to an extent as well. If he is
ill as he says he is, then the looming realisation of his own
mortality probably makes him even more obnoxious than usual. Possibly
the same with LaCourse. I really don´t know, just speculating.

Looking back through some of these old posts is interesting. Rather
sad to see all the many many names of people who simply stopped
contributing. Some are doubtless now deceased. The camaraderie has
totally disappeared.

There have also been many "Pleas for sanity" over the years. It never
materialised, and I don´t suppose it ever will. I rather fear that Mr.
Siebeneich is right, and there is nothing one can do. My "tactics" don
´t really seem to be working either, and they take up a lot of time.
For the couple of newbies I might reach here, it is not really worth
the effort, quite apart from the flak involved.

Things have changed here very considerably over time. There is a great
deal of rancour among some of the old guard, and it can never be wiped
away really. The best one could hope for would probably be an uneasy
truce, and even that is probably not possible with a few people. The
attrition will continue, not just as a result of crap on here, but
because of better info and less problems at other places.

ROFF is really an anachronism now, but it was once the only show in
town for many, and it was good too. I think it is more the memory of
that which keeps a few folks here, and not the content etc.

Oh well, enough rambling, time for bed....................

TL
MC

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More options 22 Feb 1999, 09:00
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
From: (DavPLaC)
Date: 1999/02/22
Subject: Fortenberry is a Crooked-Arrow of ROFF
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Ken: Don't open George's posts. Ignore him.
Jeff: " " " " " "
Stop the personal attacks.

George: Don't open Ken and Jeff's posts. Ignore them. And
stop with the personal attacks.

Simple, gentlemen, and we will all get along and discuss fishing,
conservation, worldly woes, etc. It takes two to tango, but you
three messeurs are having a giant cluster ****. Be nice.
Dave LaCourse

UNQUOTE



i haven't checked yet, but i think the "Jeff" noted above was Jeff
Connelly...

jeff

jeff wrote:

Simple, gentlemen, and we will all get along and discuss fishing,
conservation, worldly woes, etc. It takes two to tango, but you
three messeurs are having a giant cluster ****. Be nice.
Dave LaCourse

UNQUOTE



i haven't checked yet, but i think the "Jeff" noted above was Jeff
Connelly...

jeff

I really don´t know who it was, but I did not mean to imply that it was
you. There used to be quite a number of "jeffs" posting.

TL
MC

"Mike" wrote in message
ups.com...

...I rather fear that Mr. Siebeneich is right, and there is nothing one
can do....

Actually, Mr. Siebeneich never said, intimated, hinted or suggested any such
thing. He merely pointed out that what you do (presumably, given your
strong feelings, all that you CAN do) will never work. The same is, of
course, true for many others.

Meanwhile, the ****-weasels will continue to be hammered.....or toyed
with.....or otherwise dealt with as they beg for and so richly deserve.


Wolfgang
who remains certain that he is not alone in understanding and grasping the
significance of the secret.

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:23:59 -0800, Mike
wrote:

He was more than a little crazy. He always had his eye on a dollar as
well, a real shyster. He got up to quite a few nasty tricks. His
propaganda was brilliant though. Gink is probably still one of the
most popular floatants on the market. I don´t hear much about his
other stuff, but I assume the family are still marketing it. He was
obviously quite ill towards the end, and that made him even worse. For
quite a long time various people tried to help him, but it did no good
really.

He was crazy like a fox, not crazy like you. Before he died he knew
more about fishing western waters than you will ever know. Many
people did not get along with George, but most respected him and were
sorry for his wife when he died.

His web site still exists; http://www.gink.com/ and his company
still appears to be trading.

some other interesting stuff as well; http://www.flyfishingjournal.com/archives/pr200001.htm

Maybe that´s what´s wrong with Kennyboy to an extent as well. If he is
ill as he says he is, then the looming realisation of his own
mortality probably makes him even more obnoxious than usual. Possibly
the same with LaCourse. I really don´t know, just speculating.

You don't know? Goodness. That is the first truth you have spoken.
You do not know, nor will you ever know. I could die tomorrow and
still not have to worry about you outfishing me if you lived to be
100. You don't fly fish, Connor; you TALK about fly fishing. Big
difference.

Looking back through some of these old posts is interesting. Rather
sad to see all the many many names of people who simply stopped
contributing. Some are doubtless now deceased. The camaraderie has
totally disappeared.

Really? You wouldn't know camaraderie if it rose up and bitcha in da
ass.


There have also been many "Pleas for sanity" over the years. It never
materialised, and I don´t suppose it ever will. I rather fear that Mr.
Siebeneich is right, and there is nothing one can do. My "tactics" don
´t really seem to be working either, and they take up a lot of time.
For the couple of newbies I might reach here, it is not really worth
the effort, quite apart from the flak involved.

Oh, Connor, you are melting my heart. Your "tactics" were doomed to
failure before you even started that crap on roff. If you had not a
history of leaving roff in a snit after someone disagreed with you and
you became so angry that you picked up your ball and bat and went
home, your credibility wouldn't be in such a ragged condition. Your
tactics have failed becaus YOU have failed, not only in life, but
dealing with people. You are a psychopath who is so filled with
himself, you make Gehrke look like an overdone introvert.

Things have changed here very considerably over time. There is a great
deal of rancour among some of the old guard, and it can never be wiped
away really. The best one could hope for would probably be an uneasy
truce, and even that is probably not possible with a few people. The
attrition will continue, not just as a result of crap on here, but
because of better info and less problems at other places.

Most of the rancour in this group can be blamed on politics. There is
a schism in the US and it has extended itself to roff. Any crap on
here will be dealt with as it always is. That is why you have left
roff in a snit more than a dozen times.

ROFF is really an anachronism now, but it was once the only show in
town for many, and it was good too. I think it is more the memory of
that which keeps a few folks here, and not the content etc.

If it is sooo bad, Connor, why, pray tell, why are you here? Did you
really get kicked off those other sites? Moderated groups don't serve
your agenda? Why? It IS the content, as Myron's project has proven.

Oh well, enough rambling, time for bed....................

Yeah. It must be lonely in that big bed.....

LaCourse

On 11-Nov-2007, "Wolfgang" wrote:

Meanwhile, the ****-weasels will continue to be hammered.....or toyed
with.....or otherwise dealt with as they beg for and so richly deserve.


Wolfgang
who remains certain that he is not alone in understanding and grasping the

significance of the secret.

This guy Wolgang
He is a funny dude!

A real estute hombre but a bit nuts also
At least he is not spewing hate and vile invective
He does it in a far more subtle and acerbic manner

He often makes me laugh - which is pretty impotant on a fishing newsgroup

Thanks Wolfie

My two cents
Fred

Dave LaCourse wrote:

Yeah. It must be lonely in that big bed.....


though i've come to accept the depth of animosity between you guys, i'm
still amazed and saddened that you make statements like this dave...

jeff

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:04:11 -0500, jeff
wrote:

though i've come to accept the depth of animosity between you guys, i'm
still amazed and saddened that you make statements like this dave...

Yeah, me too. You seem to forget some of the statements he has made
against me, Fortenberry, BJ, Scott, Tom L., and others, including the
poor souls that gave him some slack. They were very hurtful words,
Jeff. As a kid I could hold my own in any fight, but this is down and
dirty street fighting, no holds barred. I wasn't very good at that as
a kid. I am now, however, thanks to his nut house. I didn't make the
rules - hell, there are no rules. I will give to *******s like Connor
and rw as I receive. Leave me alone and I will leave you alone.
Simple. Can that be the #1 rule of roff? I doubt it, because someone
will say something and someone else will disagree with it, and the war
is on again. Look at what rw did to a serious Veterans Day Thread.
He filled it with his hatred.

It is surprising to me that you fail to come down on Connor who has
more than his fair share of injurious words. Is it because you hate
Fortenberry? Remember, if you look back on all of this recent crap,
it was Connor who stuck his nose in and insulted Fortenberry *for no
reason at all.* For gawds sake, Fortenberry was mourning the death of
his dog Kipper, and he was sharing that with us. He thought we would
understand. But no, we didn't understand. Connor came aboard again
with his hate and YOU did nothing about it except encourage it. YOU
failed to speak up, Jeff. You are as guilty as anyone else in this
****ing contest because you picked sides. Do you support him and how
he treats everyone on this forum that do not agree with him? I doubt
you can, but perhaps I am wrong. I am amazed and saddened by you
lately. I know you are a decent and passionate man - that is what I
love most about you - but I am afread your hatred of Forteberry has
jaundiced your eye.

Dave

On 12 Nov, 01:04, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:04:11 -0500, jeff
wrote:

though i've come to accept the depth of animosity between you guys, i'm
still amazed and saddened that you make statements like this dave...

Yeah, me too. You seem to forget some of the statements he has made
against me, Fortenberry, BJ, Scott, Tom L., and others, including the
poor souls that gave him some slack. They were very hurtful words,
Jeff. As a kid I could hold my own in any fight, but this is down and
dirty street fighting, no holds barred. I wasn't very good at that as
a kid. I am now, however, thanks to his nut house. I didn't make the
rules - hell, there are no rules. I will give to *******s like Connor
and rw as I receive. Leave me alone and I will leave you alone.
Simple. Can that be the #1 rule of roff? I doubt it, because someone
will say something and someone else will disagree with it, and the war
is on again. Look at what rw did to a serious Veterans Day Thread.
He filled it with his hatred.

It is surprising to me that you fail to come down on Connor who has
more than his fair share of injurious words. Is it because you hate
Fortenberry? Remember, if you look back on all of this recent crap,
it was Connor who stuck his nose in and insulted Fortenberry *for no
reason at all.* For gawds sake, Fortenberry was mourning the death of
his dog Kipper, and he was sharing that with us. He thought we would
understand. But no, we didn't understand. Connor came aboard again
with his hate and YOU did nothing about it except encourage it. YOU
failed to speak up, Jeff. You are as guilty as anyone else in this
****ing contest because you picked sides. Do you support him and how
he treats everyone on this forum that do not agree with him? I doubt
you can, but perhaps I am wrong. I am amazed and saddened by you
lately. I know you are a decent and passionate man - that is what I
love most about you - but I am afread your hatred of Forteberry has
jaundiced your eye.

Dave

You don´t have a heart LaCourse, you have an ego instead, and it is
apparently extremely difficult to keep it fed.

MC