Cutting the taper off DT line?

On Nov 26, 3:09 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the taper
of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have better
line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted flies with
ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly presentation
wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?

Just because someone does a stupid thing and then gets it published in
an article does not make it a "right" thing. The taper exists for a
reason and many a fly fishermen gets good line management and tosses
large flies when nymphing. For that matter they sell level running
lines which are often used by Great Lakes Steelheader's which is what
I would suggest one does before they went and cut a perfectly good DT
fly line.

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 3:09 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper
of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to have
better
line management control, and the ability to throw large weighted flies
with
ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that since dry-fly
presentation
wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering if
anyone has done that when nymphing?

Just because someone does a stupid thing and then gets it published in
an article does not make it a "right" thing. The taper exists for a
reason and many a fly fishermen gets good line management and tosses
large flies when nymphing. For that matter they sell level running
lines which are often used by Great Lakes Steelheader's which is what
I would suggest one does before they went and cut a perfectly good DT
fly line.

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?
-tom

On Nov 26, 4:31 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?

Just because Mr. Borger wrote instead of Mr. Me, does not mean it's
not a stupid thing to do. Unless of course one is in the industry and
his inventory of DT fly lines needs to be reduced. Its' not a new
idea, both Steve and I mentioned level taper fly lines.

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 4:31 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a
level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?

Just because Mr. Borger wrote instead of Mr. Me, does not mean it's
not a stupid thing to do. Unless of course one is in the industry and
his inventory of DT fly lines needs to be reduced. Its' not a new
idea, both Steve and I mentioned level taper fly lines.

So what's a level taper fly line?
-tom

On Nov 26, 2:10 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

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On Nov 26, 4:31 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a
level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?

Just because Mr. Borger wrote instead of Mr. Me, does not mean it's
not a stupid thing to do. Unless of course one is in the industry and
his inventory of DT fly lines needs to be reduced. Its' not a new
idea, both Steve and I mentioned level taper fly lines.

So what's a level taper fly line?
-tom

a 5-5-5 or a 8-8-8 or ???

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:10:11 -0800, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:


"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 4:31 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message

It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a
level
line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing when he
wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting heavy
weighted flies?

Just because Mr. Borger wrote instead of Mr. Me, does not mean it's
not a stupid thing to do. Unless of course one is in the industry and
his inventory of DT fly lines needs to be reduced. Its' not a new
idea, both Steve and I mentioned level taper fly lines.

So what's a level taper fly line?
-tom

ahahahaha!
yeah, that's pretty awkward, "taper" in that phrase is superfluous.
I think "level line" would do it...

/daytripper (not paid by the word)

Tom Nakashima wrote:ioned level taper fly lines.

So what's a level taper fly line?

An oxymoron.

A level fly line is one without a taper. I think you have to be
of a certain age (or limited now to a very strict budget) to have
actually fished one. Last tine I saw one for sale was a couple
of years ago in Wal-Mart.

JR

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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It sounds like cutting the taper off a DT line would make it act as a
level line. Now wondering if Gary Borger thought it was a stupid thing
when he wrote about it in his "Nymphing" book on the section of casting
heavy weighted flies?

It's not important if Mr. Borger thinks it was a stupid thing. He's trying
to sell a book and he has managed to make a living selling himself as an
expert fly fisherman. I wish I had half of his technical fishing ability but
like everything else it's up to the reader to determine if his suggestion
fits their situation. It's not a new technique and I didn't particularly
care for this book but that's why they make menus. Besides, he probably gets
free or significantly discounted fly lines. I have to buy mine and I'll be
damned if I'm going to cut a perfectly good DT line when suitable and less
expensive running lines are available.

I used to get to share time with Bruce Richards of Scientific Anglers and
some "special" fly lines once a year, the man has a mean streak when it
comes to playing with fly line tapers for "charitable purposes" and he's the
one who first mentioned cutting the tapered portion of a fly line to me for
specialized shooting heads. So if by chance Mr. Borger thought he was
writing up some new technique, then he is mistaken.

Wayne Knight wrote:
Just because someone does a stupid thing and then gets it published in
an article does not make it a "right" thing. The taper exists for a
reason

Yes, it helps to better and more delicately turn over and lay
down a leader and fly. If you're not fishing a fly, though, but
rather chucking and ducking a lure masquerading as a fly (g), a
level line would do as well (or at least no less well).

and many a fly fishermen gets good line management and tosses
large flies when nymphing.

True, but they don't *need* the taper and could do exactly the
same without it. Of course, as long as you already *have* a
tapered line (DT or WF), there's no point in using a separate
level line just because the taper, in a given situation, serves
no useful function.

- JR

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:

I read an article over the holidays about a technique of cutting the
taper of a double taper line when nymph fishing. The reasons were to
have better line management control, and the ability to throw large
weighted flies with ease, plus a nice drift. The article stated that
since dry-fly presentation wasn't a concern, the taper was useless.

I've never even considered cutting the taper off a line, and wondering
if anyone has done that when nymphing?
-tom





Haven't found a reason to do it, regardless of how much chuck and duck I
do. A heavy-weighted fly, or a ton of split shot, tends to take the line
out of the picture in any case, and I haven't noticed any problems with
line control or drift once the fly is in the water.

Some times, these guys need to say stuff just to have something to write
about.


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Scott
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