New fly tying season: what to work on?

On 28 Nov, 23:35, spittendrigh wrote:
The fly tying season started for me today.

I still dress lots of flies all the year round, so I don´t really
have a "season". As I fish for lots of different fish, I also use
quite a large number of patterns. The only way I have found to come up
with new designs is when I discover specific problems or scenarios,
and sit down to solve them. Just sitting and trying to come up with
new designs doesn´t work for me.

Sorry if that is not much help!

TL
MC

spittendrigh wrote:
The fly tying season started for me today. I haven't tied
a fly since April. But I did visit the ladies sewing store today,
where I bought scissors, thick claret-colored thread for ribbing,
various spools of metalic tinsel and a bunch of long thin
'beading' needles, which I tie most of my fly bodies on these
days. This weekend I'll drive down to West Yellowstone and get
a bunch of bird skins for tying soft hackles.

And I find myself wondering: what should I work on this year?
I still tie lots of standard patterns, but like many of us, I do
like working on new designs most of all. So what do you think the
most important,
still-outstanding and unresolved design problems are?
What the most important fish foods that don't have a satisfactory
imitation yet? If you could close your eyes and say the magic words,
presto, what would you like to see in the fly bins next year?


I'm up to my ears in tying stuff for the silent auction at my club's
Xmas party. Some of my old standbys have provoked some quite savage
bidding wars to the clubs advantage. After that it's replenishing my
boxes of small stuff, 18 and smaller. I'm also considering going
semi-pro with a barter deal for some steelhead guiding services.

Mike McGuire

"spittendrigh" wrote in message
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...So what do you think the most important,
still-outstanding and unresolved design problems are?...

Beetles come readily to mind. Not that I think they're undermisrepresented
as a food source......they just aren't that important compared to the
aquatics.....or that there aren't already enough effective patterns
around.....plenty of very useful deer hair and foam bugs to chose from.
But, deer hair is fragile and quickly soaked, while foam holds all the
aesthetic appeal for me of a bag of pus.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"spittendrigh" wrote in message
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...So what do you think the most important,
still-outstanding and unresolved design problems are?...

Beetles come readily to mind. Not that I think they're
undermisrepresented as a food source......they just aren't that important
compared to the aquatics.....or that there aren't already enough effective
patterns around.....plenty of very useful deer hair and foam bugs to chose
from. But, deer hair is fragile and quickly soaked, while foam holds all
the aesthetic appeal for me of a bag of pus.

Wolfgang



... bag of puss, how expressive . How insightful. Thank you for sharing.
............imbecile.......

Edmond Dantes

Edmond Dantes wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"spittendrigh" wrote in message
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...So what do you think the most important,
still-outstanding and unresolved design problems are?...

Beetles come readily to mind. Not that I think they're
undermisrepresented as a food source......they just aren't that important
compared to the aquatics.....or that there aren't already enough
effective patterns around.....plenty of very useful deer hair and foam
bugs to chose from. But, deer hair is fragile and quickly soaked, while
foam holds all the aesthetic appeal for me of a bag of pus.

Wolfgang



... bag of puss, how expressive . How insightful. Thank you for
sharing. ............imbecile.......

Edmond Dantes

Oh goody! You'll be amazed at the level of gratitude and admiration
bringing your tripe to this newsgroup is going to win for you.

Wolfgang

For me I am almost always looking for the next best big streamer tube
fly or night pattern. I consider these flys to be what I call
R.C.(Remote Control) flys because of the action and water that they
displace. I feel like when I tell these flys to do something they really
do it. Often times some patterns sit so high in column they appear as
though they are mini motor boats.

As of late I have been into Strip Leeches and articulated flys. I know
some may consider these flys to be bait fishing but I enjoy tying them
up so much why not fish them.


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theartoflee;100256 Wrote:
For me I am almost always looking for the next best big streamer tube
fly or night pattern. I consider these flys to be what I call
R.C.(Remote Control) flys because of the action and water that they
displace. I feel like when I tell these flys to do something they really
do it. Often times some patterns sit so high in column they appear as
though they are mini motor boats.

As of late I have been into Strip Leeches and articulated flys. I know
some may consider these flys to be bait fishing but I enjoy tying them
up so much why not fish them.

Yup bait. But, no different than glow bugs and egg imitations.

Cdog


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"spittendrigh" wrote



still-outstanding and unresolved design problems are?
What the most important fish foods that don't have a satisfactory
imitation yet?


I don't think this is the type thing you are looking for

but

the most consistent failures I encounter revolve around "Tiny Fall Baetis"
Each day in the late season has a hour or so when the baetis are crawling
all over your waders, fish are feeding like crazy, and only a few can be
caught .... never with that "problem solved" feeling. I "think" the
fish key on subsurface spinners, egg layers awash, but I've tried every
pattern I've seen and made up a few myself ... none worked with that
mentioned efficiency of a "solution"

um ... the name calling has gotten too complicated recently ... I think
these bugs may be called "pseudos" in your area ...

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pre-hatch periods of Brown Drakes need work ... a wiggly nymph


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FLOATING nymphs for use with extra fast sinking lines in a mode similar to
the Brit's Booby flies are need for stillwater anglers ... this tactic works
very well, is little known in the US and I have NEVER seen a commercial fly
designed for the tactic in a brick and motor fly shop ... even shop's near
destination stillwaters

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any and all design improvements to "float" a fly IN the film, ideally
causing a visible bump in the film without anything showing above it, or
sinking so low that the bump goes away .... MY experience suggests this it
the number one uno most killer float possible, but it's nearly impossible
:-) ..... we're talking #14-#20 flies here and a whole new design
approach/ materials choice to suggesting a wide variety of Mr Trout's
favorite meals.

On Nov 30, 11:16 am, "Larry L" wrote:
um ... the name calling has gotten too complicated recently ... I think
these bugs may be called "pseudos" in your area ...

I call those late season itty bitties "pseudo klingons"
In late September there are hatches of BWO like things, but
they are so small the bigger fish often seem to ignore them.

Later on, say mid-October, when the real BWO hatch starts,
the fishing can be spectacular. But what seems to matter most
is the fisherman, and not so much the fly. My buddy John (aka Duke)
out-fishes me and everyone else 5-1. Somedays he uses little dry
flies. Some days itty beadheads. Some days softhackles.
John keeps his secrets pretty close to his fly box. But I think he
just changes flies until something works. But he has more than
that......some deep seated lazer beam juju emanating from the
lower brain stem seems to be involved.

"spittendrigh" wrote in message
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On Nov 30, 11:16 am, "Larry L" wrote:
um ... the name calling has gotten too complicated recently ... I think
these bugs may be called "pseudos" in your area ...

I call those late season itty bitties "pseudo klingons"
In late September there are hatches of BWO like things, but
they are so small the bigger fish often seem to ignore them.

Later on, say mid-October, when the real BWO hatch starts,
the fishing can be spectacular. But what seems to matter most
is the fisherman, and not so much the fly. My buddy John (aka Duke)
out-fishes me and everyone else 5-1. Somedays he uses little dry
flies. Some days itty beadheads. Some days softhackles.
John keeps his secrets pretty close to his fly box. But I think he
just changes flies until something works. But he has more than
that......some deep seated lazer beam juju emanating from the
lower brain stem seems to be involved.
-


The days I speak of usually have both types of flies around ... it may be
the "true" baetis that cause me to pull my hair, not sure ... and I've been
at Silver Creek when I was most humbled

deep seated juju is, sadly, not in my arsenal


I met a guy from Colorado that "claimed" to be getting a hit on "every cast"
during the period/activity that mostly eludes me ... wouldn't show me his
fly, or tell me what ingedients it contained, or what bug he felt it
suggested, he kept "his secrets pretty close to his fly box." but I
remember his name as Blaine not John G . Blaine did let slip, then seem
irritated with himself, that he was using #22 hooks. I never saw him on
the water, but I really, really, really, yes, really, doubt his "every cast"
claim G

Good to see ya posting Sandy. do you sell boat plans? I met another guy
and his son from Minnesota or Michigan up at the Missouri in Montana ( lot
of damn "m" states aren't there ) with a lovely drift boat he had built from
plans he got from "someone in the Boseman area" ..... I'm not a boat kinda
guy ( 'cept duckboats ) but it was a thing of beauty