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Old November 30th, 2007, 05:06 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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For those of you who enjoy such things:

The library of the University of the Pacific has some fantastic
digitized items from their special collections. In particular, I'd
like to point out their large collection of John Muir's journals and
sketches and photographs of Muir. Having looked through a small
portion of what they have made available, there is some fascinating
stuff. I looked through his notes from his stay in the Toulomne
meadows area of Yosemite, page after page of his notes and sketches.

In addition, they have a collection of Dave Brubeck items (oral
histories and photographs) and a very interesting collection of
primary materials relating to the WWII era Japanese-American
internment camps.

So if you are so inclined and have some time to spare, here is the
link.

http://library.pacific.edu/ha/digital/index.asp


Cool stuff, Bill. Thanks.

Wolfgang


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Old December 1st, 2007, 06:34 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 30, 10:06 am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
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For those of you who enjoy such things:


The library of the University of the Pacific has some fantastic
digitized items from their special collections. In particular, I'd
like to point out their large collection of John Muir's journals and
sketches and photographs of Muir. Having looked through a small
portion of what they have made available, there is some fascinating
stuff. I looked through his notes from his stay in the Toulomne
meadows area of Yosemite, page after page of his notes and sketches.


In addition, they have a collection of Dave Brubeck items (oral
histories and photographs) and a very interesting collection of
primary materials relating to the WWII era Japanese-American
internment camps.


So if you are so inclined and have some time to spare, here is the
link.


http://library.pacific.edu/ha/digital/index.asp


Cool stuff, Bill. Thanks.

Wolfgang- Hide quoted text -

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Old November 30th, 2007, 05:37 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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So if you are so inclined and have some time to spare, here is the
link.

http://library.pacific.edu/ha/digital/index.asp

Cheers,
Bill



UOP also has my kid as a student ... I consider THAT to be their high point
G


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Old December 1st, 2007, 01:52 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 30, 12:37 pm, "Larry L" wrote:
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So if you are so inclined and have some time to spare, here is the
link.


http://library.pacific.edu/ha/digital/index.asp


Cheers,
Bill


UOP also has my kid as a student ... I consider THAT to be their high point
G


Lucky kid! UOP appears to have an excellent library. At our place,
we get far too many students who make the odd boast of never having
set foot in the library for four years. I hope your kid takes
advantage of the riches at the UOP libraries! Those special
collections librarians would probably love it if he/she came to see
them and asked to see the Muir journals!

Bill
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Old December 1st, 2007, 04:24 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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When is everything at a library going to be digitized and available to
patrons online?

Our libraries in Colorado have made a bit of progress in this regard,
they have a good selection of audio books available (2000+ titles) for
download with a time limit and copy protection. I think is great. You
download the book and transfer it to a MP3 player (but not an IPOD) or
listen to it on your computer for a two week period.

There are also some ebooks available, but they are very limited.
Personally, what I'd especially like to see are the online availability
of scientific journals.

Willi
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Old December 1st, 2007, 04:42 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Willi wrote:
When is everything at a library going to be digitized and available to
patrons online?


Google is trying to do this, not just for one library but for *everything*:

http://books.google.com/googlebooks/library.html

What's causing them problems is copyright.

Our libraries in Colorado have made a bit of progress in this regard,
they have a good selection of audio books available (2000+ titles) for
download with a time limit and copy protection. I think is great. You
download the book and transfer it to a MP3 player (but not an IPOD) or
listen to it on your computer for a two week period.

There are also some ebooks available, but they are very limited.
Personally, what I'd especially like to see are the online availability
of scientific journals.


A lot of scientific journals are online, but you have to pay. For
example, look at http://prl.aps.org/.

Scientists were among the first to take advantage of the Web by making
preprints available, and these are typically free. For example,
http://arxiv.org/. The main reason they do this is that it takes so long
to get a paper published in journal form. Printed scientific journals
are nearly obsolete -- very expensive and out-of-date.

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Old December 1st, 2007, 05:06 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:
Willi wrote:

When is everything at a library going to be digitized and available to
patrons online?



Google is trying to do this, not just for one library but for *everything*:

http://books.google.com/googlebooks/library.html

What's causing them problems is copyright.



I don't see how this is different from borrowing books from the library
if they are "loaned" online with copy protection and time limits.

Willi
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Old December 1st, 2007, 05:20 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Willi wrote:
rw wrote:

Willi wrote:

When is everything at a library going to be digitized and available
to patrons online?




Google is trying to do this, not just for one library but for
*everything*:

http://books.google.com/googlebooks/library.html

What's causing them problems is copyright.




I don't see how this is different from borrowing books from the library
if they are "loaned" online with copy protection and time limits.

Willi


I don't think publishers particularly like lending libraries, nor do
they like used book sales. They want a way to monetize their content.

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Old December 2nd, 2007, 04:45 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Willi wrote:
When is everything at a library going to be digitized and available to
patrons online?

Our libraries in Colorado have made a bit of progress in this regard,
they have a good selection of audio books available (2000+ titles) for
download with a time limit and copy protection. I think is great. You
download the book and transfer it to a MP3 player (but not an IPOD) or
listen to it on your computer for a two week period.

There are also some ebooks available, but they are very limited.
Personally, what I'd especially like to see are the online availability
of scientific journals.

Willi


Hi Willi:

A lot scientific journals are available online. The series I publish in,
is, and can be found at http://esa.publisher.ingentaconnect.com/content/esa

The rub is that full access is available only to members. The general
public can usually get access to the abstract. Many authors, myself
included, will pay to have a free pdf file than anyone can download.

Also, the article only go back to about 1999. Anything older will likely
be in print, not pdf. We are working on changing that, however, but it
takes time and money to do. There are a number of services, like JSTOR
that have archives scientific journals.

There are more and more open journals, meaning they allow full access to
anyone. I haven't published in any yet, but am considering.

Tim Lysyk
 




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