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Old December 20th, 2007, 03:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Wolfgang
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"Tim J." wrote in message
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Any laws regarding cell phone usage while driving don't take into account
the myriad other distractions that now exist or will exist in the future.
The only mandate that should be put into effect is "while driving, get yer
head out of yer ass and drive!"


I sweartagod this is true! Last Sunday, while on my way home from a short
road trip, I glanced at a billboard on a section of freeway under
construction on the south side of downtown Milwaukee that showed a picture
of someone using a cell phone while driving and said "Inclement weather
doesn't cause accidents; distractions do!"

There was also a note indicating that this message was brought to us by the
Wisconsin Department of Transportation, and some fine print that I couldn't
quite make out 50+ miles per hour.

Wolfgang
um......did i mention that this was on a billboard......on the
freeway.....in a highly congested area with a heavy traffic flow....in a
construction zone?


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Old December 20th, 2007, 04:08 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wolfgang typed:
"Tim J." wrote in message
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Any laws regarding cell phone usage while driving don't take into
account the myriad other distractions that now exist or will exist
in the future. The only mandate that should be put into effect is
"while driving, get yer head out of yer ass and drive!"


I sweartagod this is true! Last Sunday, while on my way home from a
short road trip, I glanced at a billboard on a section of freeway
under construction on the south side of downtown Milwaukee that
showed a picture of someone using a cell phone while driving and said
"Inclement weather doesn't cause accidents; distractions do!"

There was also a note indicating that this message was brought to us
by the Wisconsin Department of Transportation, and some fine print
that I couldn't quite make out 50+ miles per hour.

Wolfgang
um......did i mention that this was on a billboard......on the
freeway.....in a highly congested area with a heavy traffic
flow....in a construction zone?


DAMMIT! There should be a law. . . ;-)
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TL,
Tim
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Old December 20th, 2007, 03:28 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Dec 20, 9:27 am, "Tim J."
wrote:
The problem is not the
phones or most of the people using them. The problem are the idiots who
can't walk and chew gum at the same time.


I gotta say, the vast majority of phone users I've seen who have
****ed me off are the ones who get so engrossed in their phone
conversation that they slooooow dooooown to the point of being an
obstruction. Can't tell you how many times I've been caught behind
one of those rolling backups to finally get to the front & find some
idiot (yes, usually female) chatting away while doing 5 miles under
the limit in the fast lane.

This isn't limited to cell phone use, of course. The majority of
drivers who royally **** me off are the ones who seem oblivious to the
fact they're part of a larger conglomeration of fellow humans on the
road and have no apparent recognition of their responsibilities
outside their own cocoon.
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Old December 20th, 2007, 07:01 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Frank Church[_5_]
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"Tim J." wrote in
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Frank, you liberal weenie (who loves ya?). ;-)


Bite me Timmy!! Liberal, HA! Them's fightin' words.
Come to think of it, bite me again!

Frank Sr.
Frothing at the mouth in Fremont
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Old December 21st, 2007, 05:38 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:01:44 GMT, Frank Church
wrote:

"Tim J." wrote in
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Frank, you liberal weenie (who loves ya?). ;-)


Bite me Timmy!! Liberal, HA! Them's fightin' words.
Come to think of it, bite me again!

Frank Sr.



Frothing at the mouth in Fremont


You, Howard Dean, Paul Begala, and James Carville....

TC,
R
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Old December 20th, 2007, 04:47 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Frank Church" wrote in message
96...
"Gordon MacPherson" wrote in
:


Just announced in the UK that using the phone while driving, in some
circumstances could lead to imprisonment - reckoned to be as dangerous
as drunk driving


... it'll make it to this side of the pond eventually, and not a minute
too
soon.


It's starting the 1st of the year hear in Washington. I drive 50 - 60
minutes each way to work. I would guess 60 +% of the people I see or pass in
the morning have cell phones stuck to their head and probably more than that
on the drive home

Washington state law:
Drivers may not send, read or write a text message while driving (eff.
1/1/2008) unless operating an emergency vehicle or reporting an emergency or
illegal activity.
Hands free cell phone devices are required while operating a vehicle (eff.
7/1/2008). Exempts drivers of emergency vehicles and tow trucks, drivers who
have hearing aids and drivers reporting emergencies or illegal activities.
Secondary enforcement.

JT


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Old December 20th, 2007, 05:00 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"JT" wrote in message
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It's starting the 1st of the year hear in Washington. I drive 50 - 60
minutes each way to work. I would guess 60 +% of the people I see or pass
in the morning have cell phones stuck to their head and probably more than
that on the drive home

Washington state law:
Drivers may not send, read or write a text message while driving (eff.
1/1/2008) unless operating an emergency vehicle or reporting an emergency
or illegal activity.
Hands free cell phone devices are required while operating a vehicle (eff.
7/1/2008). Exempts drivers of emergency vehicles and tow trucks, drivers
who have hearing aids and drivers reporting emergencies or illegal
activities. Secondary enforcement.

JT


DoH!

here, not hear...

JT
who should probably read what I write before posting...


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Old December 20th, 2007, 06:39 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Dec 20, 12:00 pm, "JT" wrote:
here, not hear...


Here here!

Joe F.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 07:19 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Frank Church" wrote in message
96...
"Gordon MacPherson" wrote in
:


Just announced in the UK that using the phone while driving, in some
circumstances could lead to imprisonment - reckoned to be as dangerous
as drunk driving


... it'll make it to this side of the pond eventually, and not a minute
too
soon.

Frank Sr.


I have mixed feelings about outlawing things like that. One one hand I
believe we need to maintain a certain amount of freedom of choice. On the
other...I *@#$%&! HATE cell phones. Three years ago I bought a new (to me)
used truck that was owned by an elderly retired couple. Pristine inside and
out, low low miles, etc. Owned it two months when I was stopped at a red
light at the bottom of a hill. Didn't see the car in my rearview that hit me
at about 50mph. I was pushed nearly 40 yards through the intersection and
back uphill with my foot on the brake. The driver got out with cell phone in
one hand and smoke in the other. When giving the police report she swore
that she was slowing down for the stop. No matter, she had no insurance, an
already suspended license, and an expired registration...and since I keep my
hitch in the reciever, a totaled car. I had almost forgot about the incident
when my wife's uncle was killed under almost the same circumstances four
months later. I have not honestly been able to think of a realistic or
reasonable solution to the problem. After all, I don't think it is possible
or ethical to legislate common sense or common courtesy. Cell phones
themselves don't bother me, the (already) inconsiderate *******s that use
them as a way of saying "Look at me, i'm important/cool/big ****" iritate me
to no ends. They are the same people who insist that thier calls are
ultimately more important than the consideration of the people around them,
even when talking in the most inappropriate places.

Jeremy Moe


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Old December 21st, 2007, 12:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article , Gordon
MacPherson writes

"Larry L" wrote in message
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I just took a short, hour each way, drive to help my son with a couple
things at his place.

Being a bit "cell phone conscious" lately I really noticed the number of
people with the damn things stuck to their ears as they whipped through
lanes of traffic, eager to save, maybe, a second or two. I wonder what
percentage of those calls were even vaguely "important." ... certainly all
were dangerous.

Got me thinking that each day several people probably hear a friend or
loved one die as the attempts at cell phone/ driving multi-tasking fail
and
end in a crash.

Damn I'm glad I'm so very, very, unimportant. The world won't end if I
I'm a bit late and it gets by well enough without my being on a phone 85%
of
the time ... or ever while driving


.... or fishing

Just announced in the UK that using the phone while driving, in some
circumstances could lead to imprisonment - reckoned to be as dangerous as
drunk driving

Gordon


Quite right too. !
--
Bill Grey

 




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