OT Karma Catches Up With Cheats

"Tim J." wrote in message
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rb608 typed:
On Feb 4, 8:55 am, daytripper wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object
lesson, no fix required ;-)


I vote for the "it's just me" answer, and think we must have been watching
different games. The Giants had the Pats offense on their heels from early
in the game. Their blitzes were near-flawless, and the Pats abandoned the
offense that got them to the bowl in the first place. It was a great game
that kept me watching all the way to the last seconds.

Ditto, my thoughts on the game were just as yours. The Giants defense
rocked, which may have given the perception the Pats were at half speed.

JT

Wayne Harrison typed:
"rb608" wrote

As far as your "uninspiring" comments, I think you must be referring
to the
halftime show

Didn't even consider watching that. There is no act so good that the
Super Bowl Halftime show couldn't ruin.

ya know, joey, i thought ol' tom petty did a pretty good job on
"free fallin"--of course, that is not the most demanding composition
of the last half century, but pretty neat lyrics.

Don't get me wrong - I *like* Tom Petty, but there's a time and a place for
everything, and the Super Bowl ain't the place for "slow dancing", IMHO.
--
TL,
Tim
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George Adams wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Joe. This was a classic Greek Tragedy of an object
lesson, no fix required ;-)

Yeah, I don't think XLII was fixed I think the Giants had a good
defensive game plan which they executed to perfection. It's hard
for even Tom Brady to be a great QB while sitting on his ass.


It seemed to me that the Pat's offensive line was about a half step
slower than normal. Just enough to allow the Giant's defense to be
rffective. I think they need younger legs on the line. In many of the
closeups those guys looked tired right from the get-go. I still think
that Brady was bothered by the ankle, and that may have had a lot to
do with the plays they chose to run in the first half.

Brady has never been the most mobile of QBs but the ankle could
have been a factor. I think the more important factor was losing
a starting offensive guard early in the game. Offensive lines don't
usually have interchangeable parts.

One question
was answered however......Eli Manning is a legitimate NFL QB.
The sad thing is that this was a once in a lifetime chance. The Pat's
will have other good seasons and win other Superbowls, but this was
their one shot at a perfect season.

What was the Patriots record this season ? Eighteen and *D'OH* ;-)

One good thing, (maybe), is this
game mat spawn a NE/NY rivalry similar to the Sox and Yanks.

Oh good lord, I think I'm going to be sick.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:00:57 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:

Wayne Harrison typed:
"rb608" wrote

As far as your "uninspiring" comments, I think you must be referring
to the halftime show

Didn't even consider watching that. There is no act so good that the
Super Bowl Halftime show couldn't ruin.

ya know, joey, i thought ol' tom petty did a pretty good job on
"free fallin"--of course, that is not the most demanding composition
of the last half century, but pretty neat lyrics.

Don't get me wrong - I *like* Tom Petty, but there's a time and a place for
everything, and the Super Bowl ain't the place for "slow dancing", IMHO.

Well, Kiss broke up, and Metallica was already booked elsewhere... ;-)

/daytripper (dated hippy who enjoyed hearing Petty live in 5.1 sound)

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
What was the Patriots record this season ? Eighteen and *D'OH* ;-)
Ken Fortenberry

Our headlines read:
18 - and - NO
-tom

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
And a job well done to the New York team who played a pretty good
football game today.

I gotta say, I thought the game very discouraging. The Giants really were
not that good; and the Pats barely seemed to be trying.
Heh, heh. Maybe you'd like to tell one of those Patriot players that.
I'm sure they'd agree.G They tried their best I think but aggressive
defense just made it look that way.

Frankly, the result
seemed tailor-made for bookies and merchandisers. Other than the "any given
Sunday" possibility, it sure looked like a fix to me. I wish I had more
faith in the integrity of the game; but I don't.

Amazing. The 2008 Black Sox?

The Giants just attacked the weakest point....the quarterback. The
Pats receivers run the best routes in football and I don't think
anyone can cover them well. It just can't be done & all due praise to
a well coached team. Brady is accurate, is great primarily when he has
time to stand up and hit his open receivers but the Giants coaches
obviously knew that so the defense did not allow him the time he
needed. Neither qb stood up under some of the best attacking defense I
can recall seeing; those two just aren't good scramblers and both took
a drubbing but Manning was used to the beating.

While you see weakness in the game I see strength and after this one I
hope we'll not witness too many more passive defenses. This Super Bowl
has the potential to change football. And if it doesn't I'd still
guess a team with a bunch of fire breathing, raw red meat eating
defenders will be in the next one.

And a tip of the hat to Tripper for taking it so well. I know this one
must have really hurt.

Kiyu

Kiyu wrote:
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And a tip of the hat to Tripper for taking it so well. I know this one
must have really hurt.

Yeah, 'Trip took it a whole lot better than that cheating,
scumbag, lowlife Belichick.

Can you *imagine* a head coach not being on the field at the
end of the game ? The man has no class what-so-****ing-ever.
I hope Arlen Specter cleans that mother****er's clock.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:02:23 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Kiyu wrote:
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And a tip of the hat to Tripper for taking it so well. I know this one
must have really hurt.

Yeah, 'Trip took it a whole lot better than that cheating,
scumbag, lowlife Belichick.

Can you *imagine* a head coach not being on the field at the
end of the game ? The man has no class what-so-****ing-ever.
I hope Arlen Specter cleans that mother****er's clock.

"Settle down, Francis" ;-)

You really ought to know two things: one, Tom Coughlin and Bill Belichick are
long time good friends - going *way* back. And two, that nitwit Specter is
just that - a nitwit. All he did was make a fool of himself on behalf of
another nitwit - Jeffrey Lurie - who made an ass out of *hisownself* by crying
about the Eagles loss to the Pats. There's no traction for either of them on
this deal. Wait and see. It's ovah, son.

As for me: at the end of the day - or the season - football is just a game. I
can be a fan - even a big fan - but win or lose, I'm still living my own life.

/daytripper (with all the ****ed-up reality in the world, one has to maintain
a proper perspective. you should try it ;-)

daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Kiyu wrote:
snip
And a tip of the hat to Tripper for taking it so well. I know this one
must have really hurt.
Yeah, 'Trip took it a whole lot better than that cheating,
scumbag, lowlife Belichick.

Can you *imagine* a head coach not being on the field at the
end of the game ? The man has no class what-so-****ing-ever.
I hope Arlen Specter cleans that mother****er's clock.

"Settle down, Francis" ;-)

You really ought to know two things: one, Tom Coughlin and Bill Belichick are
long time good friends - going *way* back. And two, that nitwit Specter is
just that - a nitwit. All he did was make a fool of himself on behalf of
another nitwit - Jeffrey Lurie - who made an ass out of *hisownself* by crying
about the Eagles loss to the Pats. There's no traction for either of them on
this deal. Wait and see. It's ovah, son.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. It's not just "nitwits" who
think that the NFL destroying evidence doesn't pass the smell
test. Not to mention the perfunctory, half-assed, so-called
"investigation" the NFL conducted where they didn't even bother
to interview Belichick's illegal cameraman. I mean, c'mon this
is *far* from over. The guy who illegally videotaped the Rams
in 2002 is just chomping at the bit to testify and I'm guessing
Specter will give him his chance.

As for me: at the end of the day - or the season - football is just a game. I
can be a fan - even a big fan - but win or lose, I'm still living my own life.

/daytripper (with all the ****ed-up reality in the world, one has to maintain
a proper perspective. you should try it ;-)

My perspective is doing alright. There ain't anything worse
life on this planet can throw at me than what I've already
experienced so from now on out it's all gravy. It's like I
tell the religious in my family, "If it's true that the good
Lord never gives anyone more than they than can handle I just
wish the son of a bitch didn't trust me so goddamned much." ;-)

Going to Jazz Fest for both weekends this year. We'll be in
New Orleans from April 24th to May 5th, now *THAT'S* a proper
perspective. You should try it. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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I wouldn't be too sure about that. It's not just "nitwits" who
think that the NFL destroying evidence doesn't pass the smell
test.

so far, I've heard it from Specter and you, so which "non-
nitwits" are claiming this?
Tom