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  #11  
Old March 13th, 2008, 12:57 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 13, 12:46 am, "Larry L" wrote:

We have the world's worse dial-up so I know I'm looking at having to get
something else ... DSL and cable aren't available here but I see signs for
Clearwire and some other satellite or radio deals around the area ( is
there a 'best' type of broadband for the real wire impaired that live a
little too far out? )

I'm sittin' here with a big grin just thinking about how happy my wife will
be G ( until the bills arrive )


You just need a package that gives you the functionality you require.

http://support.skype.com/index.php?_...ails&_i=1 417

Some low resolution cams will even work on dial-up, but it is
difficult to determine which beforehand.

Many satellite and radio solutions are quite expensive. Check to see
if your television provider offers internet facilities. Many cable
companies now offer this functionality on their cables.

Some other info which may be of use to you;

http://www.esensualstudios.com/webcam/camtutorial.php

This will work on dial-up;

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Interne...atWebcam.shtml

Costs 69$ to buy it, but you can try it free for thirty days first.

There are other solutions out there as well, but it is impossible to
list them all here.

TL
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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:37 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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http://www.esensualstudios.com/webcam/camtutorial.php



Disregard the tutorial above!

This will be more help to you;

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/we...cams/&cl=us,en

TL
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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:55 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"asadi" wrote


if you can get a half way decent connection....say 40+kbs...you should be
able to do voice okay...if the other person has high speed, it works even
better...chances are, in Chile, there are many internet cafe's...he pays
buy the minute or hour to use a system in the cafe....at the cafe, he can
get all the advice he needs so he won't have a problem, plus, he will have
high speed anyway.

All you will have to do is arrange a time to be online at the same
time...the cafes are very inexpensive..like less than a buck an hour....If
he's on high speed and you can get a half way decent dial up....it might
work...

the cost of a cafe for him....two or three or four times a month would be
cheaper than him getting a laptop and paying for the internet
connection....

john


My connection here is dismal ... the little dealie in the tray say 26.4 Kbps
( it will take me two hours+++ to download the Skype software just to try )

My kid has to have the laptop for other aspects of his work and will be at a
University so is likely to have the fast connection available.

I'm told there is a 5 hour difference between there and here ( hard to
believe, we're all 'on the right coast' g ) so maybe my wife could visit a
cafe here ( or use the connection at work ) to talk to him late in her day,
since it would be 5 hours later for him

Regardless of what end(s) used a cafe or other public broadband that is a
good idea ... thanks for bringing it up, as it hadn't occurred to me


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Old March 13th, 2008, 01:58 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Larry L" wrote


believe, we're all 'on the right coast' g )



The OTHER right g


Larry L ( who's never lost, but often doesn;t know where he's at )


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Old March 13th, 2008, 02:55 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Download this first, and use it to download whatever else you want;

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/

it will accelerate your downloads considerably.

TL
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Old March 13th, 2008, 03:45 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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1) The kid goes off the Chile before long. When he returns from there
he is talking of "a Fulbright in South Korea."

2) His mother will suffer greatly from his absence and I love her so I
want to help, if possible.

3) She thinks there is some way for the two of them to "talk to each other
and see each other at the same time, using the Internet and web cameras"
This sounds like science fiction to me, but I'm intentionally pretty
sheltered from the modern, connected, world.

4)But, I know many of you are out there are on the cutting edge of that
connectivity. So, I'm asking for links and pointers on where to look and
what to search for in the way of using the Internet for a mom and her kid
to stay touch. I honestly don't even have a clue what to type into
Google to get started.


Thanks

Larry L


P.S. We will be shopping for a laptop ( or two ) in the near future for
the kid and maybe for me when I'm traveling .... suggestions?

The most commonly used program is 'Yahoo Messenger" commonly known as 'YM'
You can use your webcams (when purchased they come with the appropriate
software) and even have voice w/live cam conversations. Buy a cam, install
the software...download yahoo messenger and you are ready to go.

I use it with people all over the world and it works pretty good....I'd be
glad to help you walk through the process.

However...if you want to do BOTH voice and VIDEO you will both need a high
speed connection... if one is on dial up you can still text message most
rapidly....best of all it is free. No cost for the call.

You know, that reminds me of a picnic I went to in a little town called
Batangus, a few hours south of Manila in the Philippines. Anyhow these
girls all had webcams and-........never mind.....


john...just buzz me if you need help...


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Old March 13th, 2008, 03:47 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Denis Lamy" wrote in message
...
Mike a écrit :
http://www.skype.com/allfeatures/videocall/


What mike said. ;-)

I teach that stuff, Skype is the best for one on one contact. A good
webcam is essential, but mostly an excellent Internet connection with High
Bandwith for video conversation. Sound only demands much less bandwith.

A university campus is an excellent place to connect to Internet with a
High Bandwith. For home, that's another stroy, depends a lot on the local
ISP.

Hope this help.

--
Hope to read you soon,

Denis
www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd

You'll have to eat the SPAM to E-mail


personally, I have t say that it is a toss up between skype and
yahoo....skype does have a few more features, but I seldom use them...

john


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Old March 13th, 2008, 03:56 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Larry L" wrote in message
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"asadi" wrote


if you can get a half way decent connection....say 40+kbs...you should be
able to do voice okay...if the other person has high speed, it works even
better...chances are, in Chile, there are many internet cafe's...he pays
buy the minute or hour to use a system in the cafe....at the cafe, he can
get all the advice he needs so he won't have a problem, plus, he will
have high speed anyway.

All you will have to do is arrange a time to be online at the same
time...the cafes are very inexpensive..like less than a buck an
hour....If he's on high speed and you can get a half way decent dial
up....it might work...

the cost of a cafe for him....two or three or four times a month would be
cheaper than him getting a laptop and paying for the internet
connection....

john


My connection here is dismal ... the little dealie in the tray say 26.4
Kbps ( it will take me two hours+++ to download the Skype software just
to try )

My kid has to have the laptop for other aspects of his work and will be at
a University so is likely to have the fast connection available.

I'm told there is a 5 hour difference between there and here ( hard to
believe, we're all 'on the right coast' g ) so maybe my wife could visit
a cafe here ( or use the connection at work ) to talk to him late in her
day, since it would be 5 hours later for him

Regardless of what end(s) used a cafe or other public broadband that is a
good idea ... thanks for bringing it up, as it hadn't occurred to me



?Are you in the USA??? I haven't done the research but I don't believe
there is a five hour time difference....look up the time zones...

Here is something you might consider...YOU get yourself a laptop, a
cam...and at the appointed time you and the Mrs. take a trip to the big city
where you can visit a Panera Bread or a Starbucks or a Books and Company who
offer free Wi-Fi. (wireless internet...you'll need to get a card for that).

This will be a high speed internet connection, solve all of your download
problems and you can chat with the boy just fine....

Now this is the most important part...you know that she is going to be
online for two or three hours so it is critical that you pick a place with
good fishing nearby..

....everybody's happy!

......ahhh.....john


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Old March 13th, 2008, 04:36 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Mar 13, 2:55 am, "Larry L" wrote:

My connection here is dismal ... the little dealie in the tray say 26.4 Kbps
( it will take me two hours+++ to download the Skype software just to try )

My kid has to have the laptop for other aspects of his work and will be at a
University so is likely to have the fast connection available.


Even if you don´t buy your machine(s) here, it is worthwhile browsing
the various possibilities;

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link...pf_rd_i=541966

TL
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Old March 13th, 2008, 04:45 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"asadi" wrote7


?Are you in the USA??? I haven't done the research but I don't believe
there is a five hour time difference....look up the time zones...



Yep, California
It's 4 hours difference right now, 5 sometimes ( depending on DST or not )
..... just checked it on 2 time zone websites ... it is hard to believe BUT I
also discovered that ALL of China is on one time even though it covers many
'time zones' ... this stuff is not as mathematical and based on degrees and
angles as I had assumed


Larry L




 




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