1 wt reel

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote


My 1wt has more fish landing backbone than you might think
and it's a good fishing tool for some circumstances.

--
Ken Fortenberry


thanks, Ken, that is the type fishing I assumed would be suited ....

I actually 'loved' the sweet casting little 2 wt Sage ( light Line model )
until I simply could not pull an exhausted fish up to me in Silver Creek.
It was a good fish, 18 inch or so, and I was an idiot and wore him out
BEFORE I figured out that the rod couldn't even move him, on his side,
against the current. If I had, I would have broken him off much earlier,
when he was fresh enough to survive. I was afraid to try landing without
the cushion of the rod, break the tippet after he was exhausted and he was a
dead trout. The water he was in was deep and the bottom dangerously
silty ( if you've been there you know what I mean ) so going to him was ...
literally dangerous ... but that is what I finally did ..... shipping a
little water over the waders and praying I'd not get stuck until I got him
in the net and moved to safer ground. He seemed 'ok' after a long
revival, but who knows ? I don't think I ever took the rod out of
it's case again.

I don't know about NC, but I'd think a western high country day without 1 wt
impairing wind would be a rare day, indeed. But if the rod adds pleasure
and you're not facing the problem my story points at ... enjoy G

Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
My 1wt has more fish landing backbone than you might think
and it's a good fishing tool for some circumstances.

thanks, Ken, that is the type fishing I assumed would be suited ....

I actually 'loved' the sweet casting little 2 wt Sage ( light Line model )
until I simply could not pull an exhausted fish up to me in Silver Creek.
It was a good fish, 18 inch or so, and I was an idiot and wore him out
BEFORE I figured out that the rod couldn't even move him, on his side,
against the current. If I had, I would have broken him off much earlier,
when he was fresh enough to survive. I was afraid to try landing without
the cushion of the rod, break the tippet after he was exhausted and he was a
dead trout. The water he was in was deep and the bottom dangerously
silty ( if you've been there you know what I mean ) so going to him was ...
literally dangerous ... but that is what I finally did ..... shipping a
little water over the waders and praying I'd not get stuck until I got him
in the net and moved to safer ground. He seemed 'ok' after a long
revival, but who knows ? I don't think I ever took the rod out of
it's case again.

I don't know about NC, but I'd think a western high country day without 1 wt
impairing wind would be a rare day, indeed. But if the rod adds pleasure
and you're not facing the problem my story points at ... enjoy G

There's practically no chance of tying into an 18" fish in the
places where I use a 1wt. As for wind, when I'm using a 1wt it's
generally from a position which is more horizontal than vertical,
that is to say I'm crawling around on my belly out of the wind
rather than standing on my feet trying to battle it.

The 1wt is certainly a very limited fly fishing tool but I find
that I use it quite a bit. That speaks more about the places I
choose to fish than it does the overall utility of the 1wt.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Larry L wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote


My 1wt has more fish landing backbone than you might think
and it's a good fishing tool for some circumstances.

--
Ken Fortenberry



thanks, Ken, that is the type fishing I assumed would be suited ....

I actually 'loved' the sweet casting little 2 wt Sage ( light Line model )
until I simply could not pull an exhausted fish up to me in Silver Creek.
It was a good fish, 18 inch or so, and I was an idiot and wore him out
BEFORE I figured out that the rod couldn't even move him, on his side,
against the current. If I had, I would have broken him off much earlier,
when he was fresh enough to survive. I was afraid to try landing without
the cushion of the rod, break the tippet after he was exhausted and he was a
dead trout. The water he was in was deep and the bottom dangerously
silty ( if you've been there you know what I mean ) so going to him was ...
literally dangerous ... but that is what I finally did ..... shipping a
little water over the waders and praying I'd not get stuck until I got him
in the net and moved to safer ground. He seemed 'ok' after a long
revival, but who knows ? I don't think I ever took the rod out of
it's case again.

I don't know about NC, but I'd think a western high country day without 1 wt
impairing wind would be a rare day, indeed. But if the rod adds pleasure
and you're not facing the problem my story points at ... enjoy G

I'd like to get your opinions about this web site, and this gentleman's
opinions on using ultralight fly gear.

http://www.byrdultrafly.com/ultramain.htm

FWIW, I own a 0wt flyrod for the small creeks in my area. I would not
think of using it, where I might run into a decent(14"-16")size, wild trout.

brians

"brians" wrote


I'd like to get your opinions about this web site, and this gentleman's
opinions on using ultralight fly gear.

http://www.byrdultrafly.com/ultramain.htm



I looked at a couple of the pages, will look more later

First thoughts?

This guy needs to study HTML G

Why does an ultralight fan like huge type ?

Why does he have such a big chip on his shoulder?

A defensive attack posture is almost never one that makes it easy to believe
and trust it's owner.



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In what I read, the guy's major point is that the maximum amount you can
pressure a fish is based on tippet size, not rod weight ... I agree,
but,
with modern 7X (smallest I ever use ) I can put a big bend and lots of butt
into my Sage 4wt XP .... MUCH more real lifting power than that old 2 wt in
my story ever generated .. it just bent until you were worried IT would
bust ... maybe a state of the art 0 wt can lift enough to static break 7X,
if not it is NOT allowing as much pressure on the fish as a rod that can
...even with 7X.

He implies that "skilled, knowledgable, anglers" can pressure a fish more
with light tackle because they aren't worried about busting the tippet.

I'd ask, "Doesn't skill and knowledge" include a feel that allows the angler
to moderate the pressure on the fish near the tippet strength? does skill
imply tools that do it for you or well ... skill ? Isn't one of the main
appeal of fly fishing removing the mechanical crap between you and your fish
and making your 'feel' the real tool, not gears or endlessly bending
graphite? " Regardless, see my first point, actually his point reversed
.... he says a heavy rod doesn't help unless you use heavy tippet ... I
suggest a rod that is "too light" for your tippet is a recipe for over
stressed fish ...especially when using small tippet.

Note: My story was back when I honestly believed you HAD to use 7X to fool
Silver Creek fish. I often us 5X now and only rarely 7X and I catch a LOT
more fish than back then. IF over stressing fish is a concern ( I believe
it should be ) than fishing 7X with a 2 wt that makes busting it nearly
impossible can be seen as avoiding improving one's skills, NOT as skill

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He says that lighter rods are as easy and more comfortable to cast than
heavier ones ... I agree. He notes that big, wind resistent flies need
more casting power and so do I. But for normal length casts and smallish
flies a 2 or 3 wt is a delight ( I've never tried lighter rods )
......unless the wind comes up .. a near certainty where I fish.

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He and others imply that the fight is more fun on a lighter rod ... I
disagree.

Sorry folks, but it ain't a 'fight' if the conclusion is a given. That is
why the 'fight' is largely pretty damn boring and anticlimactic, regardless
of tackle. The exceptions to 'boring' are when the outcome is NOT certain
and that demands a big fish. With average fish, a light rod extends the
time the boredom lasts, but doesn't often actually give the fish a better
chance. Anybody that hasn't experienced feeling, "Hurry up and get in
here fish, I want to move on" while engaged in the 'fight' hasn't fished
much. Dragging it out ain't always making it better. IF the fish is, in
fact, a big one, than knowing the extra time your baby rod and tiny tippet
is using up could kill that nice fish deprives ME of fun, not increases
same.

Fishing 5X and a 4 wt to Silver Creek fish DOES ( obviously my opinion, but
I've spent months of my life there over a 25 ++ year period ) require MORE
skill than 7X and a 2wt, fish for fish. To ME, the most fun in angling is
feeling competent, you all know what I mean, the days when you honestly feel
like a damn good angler, ... not .... feeling the tiddlers wiggle for longer
G

Larry L

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote


My 1wt has more fish landing backbone than you might think
and it's a good fishing tool for some circumstances.

--
Ken Fortenberry


thanks, Ken, that is the type fishing I assumed would be suited ....

forty is dead on, given his environmental parameters. i have a little
7'2wt winston that i am certain would pair up just fine with a 1wt line, and
it is wonderful on our little "branches", with dry flies and 8" trout.

yfitons
wayno