Cheney's new fishing companion

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On 11-Apr-2008, egildone wrote:

Wearing dark glasses while fly fishing can be dangerous!

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...10/CHENEY.html

Ed

Cheney - one of my favorite people

His new companions are probably the Saudi monarchy,

Wonderful people also!

They are very concerned about US inflation and and the pillaging and
destruction of our environment.

Geat humanitarians -all
Useful humans

Fred

Lets look at the last year. Democrat controlled Congress. Inflation has
soared, unemployment has increased, oil has skyrocketed, spending has
increased. Vote both parties incumbents out!

Calif Bill wrote:
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On 11-Apr-2008, egildone wrote:


Wearing dark glasses while fly fishing can be dangerous!

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...10/CHENEY.html

Ed

Cheney - one of my favorite people

His new companions are probably the Saudi monarchy,

Wonderful people also!

They are very concerned about US inflation and and the pillaging and
destruction of our environment.

Geat humanitarians -all
Useful humans

Fred


Lets look at the last year. Democrat controlled Congress. Inflation has
soared, unemployment has increased, oil has skyrocketed, spending has
increased. Vote both parties incumbents out!



Democrats don't "control" Congress. They have a bare majority in the
House and a razor-thin majority in the Senate (including the Democrat in
name only, Joe Lieberman).

Until there's either a veto-proof Democratic majority in the Senate
and/or a Democrat in the White House, they are essentially powerless to
change the disastrous course the Bush administration and his party have
set us on. That's the way the system works, and God help us if something
doesn't change.

The next administration, which I fervently hope will be Democratic, is
going to have a helluva mess to clean up, left by eight years of corrupt
and idiotic Republican policies, both on the domestic and foreign fronts.

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rw wrote in newsuednU_mo4uiF5
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Until there's either a veto-proof Democratic majority in the Senate
and/or a Democrat in the White House, they are essentially powerless to
change the disastrous course the Bush administration and his party have
set us on. That's the way the system works, and God help us if something
doesn't change.

I call bull****. If the Dems had guts, they'd stop Bush. It might take a
super majority to overide a veto, but it still takes a simple majority to
pass a bill. The Dems have been caving far too easily.

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Scott Seidman wrote:
rw wrote in newsuednU_mo4uiF5
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Until there's either a veto-proof Democratic majority in the Senate
and/or a Democrat in the White House, they are essentially powerless to
change the disastrous course the Bush administration and his party have
set us on. That's the way the system works, and God help us if something
doesn't change.


I call bull****. If the Dems had guts, they'd stop Bush. It might take a
super majority to overide a veto, but it still takes a simple majority to
pass a bill. The Dems have been caving far too easily.


Suppose the House passes your great bill with a simple majority. The
Senate either never votes because it can't get past a filibuster; or, if
by some miracle, a few Senate Republicans have the guts to vote for the
bill and vote for cloture, it won't survive a Presidential veto. Be it
stem cell research, be it anti-torture, be it SCHIP, or whatever is your
hot-button issue. That's the way the system works without a clear
majority and a lock on power.

Which, by the way, the Republicans had for six years, and look at the
mess they've gotten us into.

Maybe the Dems could have cut off war funding. It's not clear. I think
Bushco would have defied them and we'd be in the middle of a
Constitutional crisis. But be that as it may, it would have been
irresponsible, IMO. That's too blunt an instrument to get us out of this
trap Bush and Cheney have blundered us into.

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On 13-Apr-2008, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Lets look at the last year. Democrat controlled Congress. Inflation has
soared, unemployment has increased, oil has skyrocketed, spending has
increased. Vote both parties incumbents out!

I agree
But the problem goes fare deeper than you can really imagine - Who controls
the world economies?
In each country
A few families here and there but the oligarchy is another story for another
day

Forget Republicrats

One way that I differ from you is that once we vote the incumbents out we
should try them for war crimes and war profiteering
The deaths of 4200 American boys and countless other humans - mainly Iraqis
For what?

only

Money - More money for ever greedy war profiteers and low end criminals.
And an erosion of our civil liberties and a foreign debt that has broken all
records
Bush and Cheney have pocketed a lot of money
And so have their friends.

What can we do?
Any ideas

What is even worse is that
Cheney is laughing at the US and World public

Why should Bush reduce troops or pull them out of Iraq
For every soldier we outfit he must see some $$
For every round fired he probably gets a cut
No bid Haliburton Contracts
No bid contract security forces and private armies

Its a crazy world
..
Ainna.
Fred

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:45:39 GMT, wrote:

What can we do?
Any ideas

Yeah. Smoke a joint, take two ecstacy pills, and call me in the
morning.

Dr. Dave

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:45:39 GMT, wrote:


On 13-Apr-2008, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Lets look at the last year. Democrat controlled Congress. Inflation has
soared, unemployment has increased, oil has skyrocketed, spending has
increased. Vote both parties incumbents out!

I agree
But the problem goes fare deeper than you can really imagine - Who controls
the world economies?
In each country
A few families here and there but the oligarchy is another story for another
day

Forget Republicrats

One way that I differ from you is that once we vote the incumbents out we
should try them for war crimes and war profiteering
The deaths of 4200 American boys and countless other humans - mainly Iraqis
For what?

only

Money - More money for ever greedy war profiteers and low end criminals.
And an erosion of our civil liberties and a foreign debt that has broken all
records
Bush and Cheney have pocketed a lot of money
And so have their friends.

What can we do?
Any ideas

What is even worse is that
Cheney is laughing at the US and World public

Why should Bush reduce troops or pull them out of Iraq
For every soldier we outfit he must see some $$
For every round fired he probably gets a cut
No bid Haliburton Contracts
No bid contract security forces and private armies

Its a crazy world

Um, excuse me, but there is this poster that absolutely hates politics
and has asked that all such posts be clearly marked "OT" so that he can
avoi...HEY! Wait a goldurned minute here, bub...
.
Ainna.

Hoo-boy...

Fred

Uh-huh,
R

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Forget Republicrats


I really don't understand how anyone could look at the last 7.5 years and
still think the two parties are the same.


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On 14 Apr 2008 14:31:00 GMT, Scott Seidman
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I really don't understand how anyone could look at the last 7.5 years and
still think the two parties are the same.

You ain't smokin' what old Fred is smokin'. d;o)

He's into some baaaaaaad ****.

On Apr 11, 9:23 am, egildone wrote:
Wearing dark glasses while fly fishing can be dangerous!

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...10/CHENEY.html

Ed

Back in the Vietnam War years (called the American War by the
Vietnamese)
it was popular among anti-war activists to ridicule the Pentagon's
weekly
casualty figures. "If you added all those casualty totals up it would
be more
than the population of Vietnam," was a frequently heard complaint.
But it turned out not to be so. Ten years times a thousand a week is
a big
number, but no where near the size of the total population.
So you have to be careful about knee-jerk catch phrases. Sometimes
you end up making a fool of yourself.

The same thing is true among the R's right now. They have been
complaining
about uncontrolled federal spending and "growth of government" for
decades.
Military spending does surge and wane periodically. But if you check
the figures, and compare
the size of government spending as a percentage of total wealth,
the size of government is no larger now than it ever was. The R's
need
a reality check. They're living in a fantasy world.

.....the size of government has grown, but so has the size of the
economy.
The relative comparisons remain about what they always were. So take
a deep breath, all you R's out there, and try not be such propaganda
puppets.
:-)))))))