OT-E: Leave it to the Brits.

wrote:
His Loony Mikeness spews again:
snip

"Hello, FBI, how may direct your call?"

"I want to report an impugning denigrator, you stupid ****ing ****!"

"Pardon me?"

"Connect me to the head of denigration, you piece of ****!"

"Hold please..."

"Agent Vlasic, how may I help you?"

"Look, you stupid ****ing American, there's a denigrator in your midst!"

"Excuse me?"

"My boyfriend and I watched the debates and..."

"HEY! I know who you are...you're the loony dude from the fishing group
who calls every few days...man, I gotta tell ya, that boyfriend of yours
is one homely dude...but the good news is that we use the pictures in
our, er, enhanced interrogations and thus far, it's more effective than
waterboarding..."

"**** YOU CHOC! JUST **** YOU! I FLEW F-86.5 SABER TIGGERS OVER THE
YANGWANG WITH MY BEST FRIENDS BRIAN KEITH AND ROBERT E. LEE! I AM A
LEGEND!"

click....

You disgust me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, you're gonna report me to the AFTMA and the
Army Air Corps...

As for myself I've sworn off poking the loony but I must admit
after reading this I still enjoy the entertainment. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:59:40 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Face it Rick, Palin is a category 5 moron from the snake handling
wing of the GOP and the only people on earth who refuse to recognize
that her candidacy is a preposterous farce are either rabid, cynical
partisans or morons themselves.

No, she isn't a moron, ...

snicker

No, of course not, she's just "intellectually challenged".

No, she isn't, but please, do take this attitude out in public...I'm
sure McCain will appreciate the support...

LOL !!

and no, her candidacy is no more of a farce than
Obama's. ...

Alrighty then, I'll mark you down as rabid, cynical partisan.

Here's a little exercise for folks - imagine you have just returned from
a 5 year trip into a remote jungle where you've heard no news in any way
related, even tangentially, to the election or candidates. While you're
on the flight back, a fellow passenger hands you an objective, unbiased
and rather detailed summary of both Obama and Palin, but with no
pictures and the names as "Senator John Doe" and "Governor Jane Doe,"
but doesn't identify the states represented. You are also given an
objective snapshot of the current situation in the US - i.e., nothing
partisan. You are then asked whether you think either person is ready
to be POTUS or Veep. You are then asked who you would like to see as
the POTUS and where these two rank on your list, if at all. The results
are surprising...well, devastating to rabid Obamanics...

You betcha. ;-)

Bet? How much?

HTH,
R

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:25:42 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

On Oct 9, 11:11*am, wrote:
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:47:57 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

A lucid and eloquent statement from the Guardian,

If a hundred Michelle Goldbergs sat down at typewriters and bang on the
keys, sooner or later, Shakespeare might appear...well, actually, no, it
won't...but until she's caught, she'll probably find some outlet for the
idiotic loony leftist random **** that you find so lucid and eloquent...

HTH,
R
...please, remain a teacher...in the Congo or Kowloon or wherever the
heck is that you miseducate whoever you miseducate...

LOL. That sure was a deterioration into rabid name-calling, even for
you. All I did was post an album....uh...a newspaper article.

Er, no. It wasn't a newspaper article, it wasn't from a Brit, and it
wasn't "a...statement from the Guardian."

HTH,
R

;-)
--riverman

On Oct 9, 10:55*pm, wrote:
*The results
are surprising...well, devastating to rabid Obamanics...


The results *ARE* surprising? Has this imaginary exercise actually
happened? Where are these alleged results? In your mind?

I, for one, do not subscribe to the 'gee, neither candidate is any
good' nihlist attitude. I think Obama is not only the better of the
two candidates, I think he is a GREAT candidate. I think his
intelligence, eloquence, charisma and rational thought are precisely
the traits that we need in the next (and did not have in the last)
POTUS. The US is in deep **** these days, and the next POTUS has to
have all of those traits in order to try to turn things around.

"Obamaniacs"...lol. What would you prefer...that we elect a president
out of a sense of national apathy? IIRC, that was how Bush got in the
second time ("its the Dems fault because they could not vet a good
candidate") and look where THAT got us.

Bush was a ****up, but the NeoCon team pumped up half of the country
to get lost in the big cheerleading frat party and got him reelected.
McCain is too senile and statistically barely stands a chance to
survive the first term, and Palin really and truly is WAY out her her
depth, and has exhibited neither the wherewithal nor the intelligence
to manage the current crisis the US is in. I'm thankful we have
someone like Obama in the race.

--riverman

On Oct 9, 11:01*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:25:42 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:





On Oct 9, 11:11*am, wrote:
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:47:57 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

A lucid and eloquent statement from the Guardian,

If a hundred Michelle Goldbergs sat down at typewriters and bang on the
keys, sooner or later, Shakespeare might appear...well, actually, no, it
won't...but until she's caught, she'll probably find some outlet for the
idiotic loony leftist random **** that you find so lucid and eloquent....

HTH,
R
...please, remain a teacher...in the Congo or Kowloon or wherever the
heck is that you miseducate whoever you miseducate...

LOL. That sure was a deterioration into rabid name-calling, even for
you. All I did was post an album....uh...a newspaper article.

Er, no. *It wasn't a newspaper article, it wasn't from a Brit, and it
wasn't "a...statement from the Guardian."

HTH,
R


You left out "lucid and eloquent"...
:-)

--riverman

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Face it Rick, Palin is a category 5 moron from the snake handling
wing of the GOP and the only people on earth who refuse to recognize
that her candidacy is a preposterous farce are either rabid, cynical
partisans or morons themselves.
No, she isn't a moron, ...
snicker

No, of course not, she's just "intellectually challenged".

No, she isn't, but please, do take this attitude out in public...I'm
sure McCain will appreciate the support...
LOL !!

and no, her candidacy is no more of a farce than
Obama's. ...
Alrighty then, I'll mark you down as rabid, cynical partisan.

Here's a little exercise for folks - imagine you have just returned from
a 5 year trip into a remote jungle where you've heard no news in any way
related, even tangentially, to the election or candidates. While you're
on the flight back, a fellow passenger hands you an objective, unbiased
and rather detailed summary of both Obama and Palin, but with no
pictures and the names as "Senator John Doe" and "Governor Jane Doe,"
but doesn't identify the states represented. You are also given an
objective snapshot of the current situation in the US - i.e., nothing
partisan. You are then asked whether you think either person is ready
to be POTUS or Veep. You are then asked who you would like to see as
the POTUS and where these two rank on your list, if at all. The results
are surprising...well, devastating to rabid Obamanics...

Nonsense. Are you really saying that folks can compare Obama's
resume with Palin's and conclude that Palin is the better candidate ?

I mean, I have to ask because it just might be a comedy album. ;-)

Columbia, Harvard, teaching constitutional law at the University
of Chicago, state Senator and US Senator versus barely BS from
six schools, mayor and Governor hockey mom ?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

You betcha. ;-)

Bet? How much?

Four million three hundred seventy-seven thousand.

--
Ken Fortenberry

wrote in news:ju5se4hrcifgbdafoskg2blhbrlcrfrcd8
@4ax.com:

You are then asked who you would like to see as
the POTUS and where these two rank on your list, if at all. The results
are surprising...well, devastating to rabid Obamanics...



Then, Obamaniacs are pretty lucky that this isn't how elections are carried
out.

Perhaps you might consider selling your assets now, before the new
government takes them.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

"riverman" wrote

That
her performance was considered anything but a farce doesn't show how
high Palin has risen, but how low we all have sunk.

Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited 2008


I intentionally avoided ALL contact with media, the news and the 'real
world' BS from the end of May until early Oct.

When I got back to California was the first time I heard of Palin. I had
never seen or heard her until the VP Debate, although I had heard she had
come across poorly in some interviews. I had NOT seen those interviews.

I watched the debate ( remember MY first exposure to Palin, period ) and was
absolutely appalled at what I saw. If she were running for class president
in a small high school it would have been pathetic, the winking, the fake
cutesy, the blatant avoidance on answering the questions etc. I
literally was embarrassed for her, for McCain, and for my country.

When the post debate pundits announced that she "had performed better than
feared" it was like the Twilight Zone ... being transported to an alternate
universe where things look the same but are actually vastly different.

I honestly can't understand how she can appeal to ANYone .... you, for
instance, Joe Sixpack .... do you LIKE being referred to in such a
condescending, demeaning, way? Does it make you feel you belong in the
Republican Party to be talked down to ... by an idiot?

On Oct 9, 4:55*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:59:40 -0500, Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Face it Rick, Palin is a category 5 moron from the snake handling
wing of the GOP and the only people on earth who refuse to recognize
that her candidacy is a preposterous farce are either rabid, cynical
partisans or morons themselves.

No, she isn't a moron, ...

snicker

No, of course not, she's just "intellectually challenged".

No, she isn't, but please, do take this attitude out in public...I'm
sure McCain will appreciate the support...



LOL !!

and no, her candidacy is no more of a farce than
Obama's. *...

Alrighty then, I'll mark you down as rabid, cynical partisan.

Here's a little exercise for folks - imagine you have just returned from
a 5 year trip into a remote jungle where you've heard no news in any way
related, even tangentially, to the election or candidates. *While you're
on the flight back, a fellow passenger hands you an objective, unbiased
and rather detailed summary of both Obama and Palin, but with no
pictures and the names as "Senator John Doe" and "Governor Jane Doe,"
but doesn't identify the states represented. *You are also given an
objective snapshot of the current situation in the US - i.e., nothing
partisan. *You are then asked whether you think either person is ready
to be POTUS or Veep. *You are then asked who you would like to see as
the POTUS and where these two rank on your list, if at all. *The results
are surprising...well, devastating to rabid Obamanics...



You betcha. ;-)

Bet? *How much?

HTH,
R

The majority of modern politicians are not really suitable for
anything at all, that is often why they become politicians. They want
power over others, status, and money, and the vast majority are
willing to do anything at all to achieve it, retain it, and extend it.
Those who are suited to be politicians are among the most devious,
calculating, callous, and dishonest people on the planet. Many of
them work extremely hard at it, and they were all pretty hard nosed to
start with.

Those best suited to govern would not be foolish enough to accept such
a job, much less ask or campaign for it.

Some of the worst possible people appeal to the masses precisely
because some of their traits mirror those of many in those masses. It
is not a case of being "suitable" in any real sense of the word, they
merely have to convince enough people to vote for them.Whether it be
party members or other voters.

There are a great many people who will identify with the ridiculous
behaviour of Governor Palin, and assume as a result that she is "one
of them", and thus good for them. They are in their own fashion just
as naive as you are, they see things how they would like to see them,
and not as they are.

That is also why you have the government and problems that you have.
Too many warmongers, too many frustrated patriots, too much self-and
private interest, too many lobby groups, too much money wasted on
politics, instead of addressing actual problems,too much manipuation
by the governement, too many lies, too much deceit, and almost
universal contempt for the marks ( voters). In your particular case,
there is even considerable contempt for the candidates among your own
countrymen. Your politics are obviously quite extreme and appear
ridiculous in any case to a great many people

Probably ninety per cent or more of most governments, starting at the
top, are unsuitable for the jobs they hold.

Party politics as such are always stupid, for the quite simple reason
that they blind people to the actual issues, and seduce, or even force
them into following ideas.

You have two choices, both people who have spent incredible sums of
money financing a three ring circus in order to get people to vote for
them. In any sensible society, that would be grounds for disqualifying
them immediately. Emotions, party politics, bull****, bribes,
stupidity, high finance, lies, propaganda, and a host of other factors
got them where they are, not "suitability", and it will also take at
least one of them further, ( two if one includes the VP candidate).

All your bull**** and whining and bitching will not change that one
iota.

You dumb ****ers have filled this group with all this nonsensical
****e for half an age now, and you still don´t know what the issues
actually are, or what to do about them.You are running around in
circles spouting bull**** like the dumb ****ers you are, and that is
also why you get exceptionally dumb ****ers as politicians.

Although this group is obviously not a representative cross section of
the American public, it is doubtless a fairly good cross section of
the upper middle class, and you dumbos are incredibly self-centred and
stupid. Why would you expect others of your ilk to be any better?
That is also what the politicians rely on, your stupidity.

None of this changes the fact that you are a nasty unprincipled ****,
who along with others has reduced what was once a fishing group to a
load of crap, where no sensible angler would visit.

So all you have achieved is to ruin other people´s pleasure, and
pervert this group.

You are obviously quite incapable of behaving yourself in a free
environment, so what makes you think you are an expert on democracy?
You are just a stupid nasty selfish **** full of bull****.

If you want to change things for the better, then good politics, like
charity, begins at home. Bitching about something will not change it,
it merely ****es people off.

On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:16:44 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Face it Rick, Palin is a category 5 moron from the snake handling
wing of the GOP and the only people on earth who refuse to recognize
that her candidacy is a preposterous farce are either rabid, cynical
partisans or morons themselves.
No, she isn't a moron, ...
snicker

No, of course not, she's just "intellectually challenged".

No, she isn't, but please, do take this attitude out in public...I'm
sure McCain will appreciate the support...
LOL !!

and no, her candidacy is no more of a farce than
Obama's. ...
Alrighty then, I'll mark you down as rabid, cynical partisan.

Here's a little exercise for folks - imagine you have just returned from
a 5 year trip into a remote jungle where you've heard no news in any way
related, even tangentially, to the election or candidates. While you're
on the flight back, a fellow passenger hands you an objective, unbiased
and rather detailed summary of both Obama and Palin, but with no
pictures and the names as "Senator John Doe" and "Governor Jane Doe,"
but doesn't identify the states represented. You are also given an
objective snapshot of the current situation in the US - i.e., nothing
partisan. You are then asked whether you think either person is ready
to be POTUS or Veep. You are then asked who you would like to see as
the POTUS and where these two rank on your list, if at all. The results
are surprising...well, devastating to rabid Obamanics...

Nonsense. Are you really saying that folks can compare Obama's
resume with Palin's and conclude that Palin is the better candidate ?

No, what I am really saying is that both have pretty slim records,
because, well, they both have pretty slim records.

I mean, I have to ask because it just might be a comedy album. ;-)

Columbia, Harvard, teaching constitutional law at the University
of Chicago, state Senator and US Senator versus barely BS from
six schools, mayor and Governor hockey mom ?

Hmmm...lessee...Hillary, 1 term Senator, no other elected office, Bill,
Governor, Kerry, 2 years as Lt. Gov (with Dukakis) and Senator, Bush,
Yale AND Harvard, Governor...

And as far as his "Constitutional Law" course:

CONSTITUTIONAL LAW III: EQUAL PROTECTION AND SUBSTANTIVE DUE PROCESS.
40301. This course considers the history, theory, and contemporary law
of the post-Civil War Amendments to the Constitution, particularly the
Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment.
The central subjects a the constitutional law governing
discrimination on the basis of race, gender, and other characteristics;
the recognition of individual rights not explicitly enumerated in the
Constitution; and the constitutional distinction between state and
private action. Throughout, students consider certain foundational
questions, including the role of courts in a democracy, and the question
of how the Constitution should be interpreted. The student's grade in
Mr. Obama's section is based on a take home examination.

And his vast body of legal scholarship (as of 2005)?

Publications:

Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance (Times
Books/Random House and Kodansha Books). 1995

And his notable cases (as of 2005):

Um, well, ya see...I mean, well...um, it's like this... HEY! He was
too busy, OK? I mean, come on, be fair...he had only been a lawyer for
14 years...

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

You betcha.

HTH,
R