rod for bride

Larry L wrote:
"rw" wrote


I would have recommended a relatively cheap rod in this case, but since
Larry seemed to be coveting a potential rod for himself I went with the
SP. :-)




Seems she does NOT want to get a new one and "price does matter" The
real, been together 35 years feel from her is that she intends to fish a bit
to humor me but not really "for herself." I hope that changes after a day
or two and some fish caught ( I'll start her on the Firehole, fishing in a
postcard, with a soft hackle ... she will catch lots of fish in a gorgeous
location )

Just make sure that she catches more fish than you do.

So she wants a 'had me down' from my collection and I'll let her choose from
that collection. I have a very nice Scott 9 foot 5wt that I'll nudge her
towards, as best all around, but I have several that would be suitable from
4 to 6 wt.

Good solution.

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On Nov 7, 7:51*pm, "Larry L" wrote:
"rw" wrote



I would have recommended a relatively cheap rod in this case, but since
Larry seemed to be coveting a potential rod for himself I went with the
SP. :-)

Seems she does NOT want to get a new one and "price does matter" * * The
real, been together 35 years feel from her is that she intends to fish a bit
to humor me but not really "for herself." * *I hope that changes after a day
or two and some fish caught *( I'll start her on the Firehole, fishing in a
postcard, with a soft hackle ... *she will catch lots of fish in a gorgeous
location )

So she wants a 'had me down' from my collection and I'll let her choose from
that collection. * * I have a very nice Scott 9 foot 5wt that I'll nudge her
towards, as best all around, but I have several that would be suitable from
4 to 6 wt.

If she happens to choose my favorite, a 4wt Sage XP .... no forget it, I
won't show her that *one, she can try the 4wt St Croix *G

Give her the best you have, show her quickly how to do it, and then
leave her strictly alone unless she asks for help.

You may be very very lucky, as I once was, and discover that she loves
it, but she has to love it herself, not through you. If this occurs,
then you will eventually spend some of the highest quality time you
have ever spent together.

Good luck, and tight lines!

MC

MC

In point of fact, in this case, you would be better advised to send he
for a "women´s" fly-fishing course, or week-end etc. Then she will
know enough to choose her own rod, and her attitude to various things
will also be different.

http://reel-women.com/

http://www.reel-women.com/school2008basic2day.htm

Something like the above, which gives here the basic skills without
you being involved.

TL
MC

"rw" wrote in message
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Don Phillipson wrote:
"Larry L" wrote in message
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When it somes to my bride, money is no object with. I'd like opinions

on

what rods to put in her hands to try ... knowing that her skills are

limited

and will take training to appreciate any tool .... the goal being having

her

take to the sport to the degree her nature allows


Personal liking of the rod outweighs even expert recommendations
about brand or weight -- which means, in practice, that you must
take her to a dealer who lets her try various outfits (on water, not
grass) so she can discover which she likes best.

I respectfully disagree with this. It's good advice for someone who is
already fairly skilled, but not for a novice. A novice with little or no
casting skills has no basis for judging the suitability of a rod.

A good rod that isn't extreme in any way -- not too fast, too slow, too
long, too short, etc. -- will be adequate for any beginner.

I would have recommended a relatively cheap rod in this case, but since
Larry seemed to be coveting a potential rod for himself I went with the
SP. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

But even an unskilled fisher may not like a rod. The rod may be your
favorite, but the feel is just not right for someone else. Different arm
length, strength, height all play into the equation.

Calif Bill wrote:

But even an unskilled fisher may not like a rod. The rod may be your
favorite, but the feel is just not right for someone else. Different arm
length, strength, height all play into the equation.

Give me a break. You're talking about a skilled caster looking for the
perfect rod. Any decent, non-extreme rod will work just fine for a
novice. This isn't brain surgery.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:

But even an unskilled fisher may not like a rod. The rod may be your
favorite, but the feel is just not right for someone else. Different arm
length, strength, height all play into the equation.

Give me a break. You're talking about a skilled caster looking for the
perfect rod. Any decent, non-extreme rod will work just fine for a novice.
This isn't brain surgery.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

No break. Some rods just do not feel right. Other person loves them, but
does not work for another person. Novice may back cast slowly or speedily,
let the line load well, or barely load. It is not brain surgery, but some
tools just do not fit correctly.

On Nov 6, 4:44*pm, "Don Phillipson" wrote:
Personal liking of the rod outweighs even expert recommendations
about brand or weight -- which means, in practice, that you must
take her to a dealer who lets her try various outfits (on water, not
grass) so she can discover which she likes best.

I'm going to agree with Don on this. Not that rw isn't correct in is
assessment of newbies; but it's not as if she will be choosing the rod
using an uninformed opinion of quality. Your hedge against a bad
choice is in selecting which rods she should try out. Put only good
choices in her hands; and whatever rod she selects as her own will be
a good choice.

Don's point is well taken. Make her a part of the process from the
beginning. Allow her to "own" the rod, not just use a rod selected
for her. Sure, your input is valuable as is the shop owner's; but, to
use a stereotype, imagine if it were a pair of shoes. It's not just
about the footwear, it's about the shopping.

"Larry L" wrote in message
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My lovely bride of 32 years retires in March and will be traveling with me
on my trout bum summers, at least part of the time.


Years ago she took some casting lessons and FFed a bit, but never much

I don't intend to try and make a fly fisher out of her but she has
expressed the desire to try it .. "some"

MY personal taste in rods has gotten faster and faster as my experience
has increased

but I'm thinking a newbie might prefer a slower rod of quality to latest
and greatest broomstick

When it somes to my bride, money is no object with. I'd like opinions
on what rods to put in her hands to try ... knowing that her skills are
limited and will take training to appreciate any tool .... the goal being
having her take to the sport to the degree her nature allows ( she's an
outdoor lady she used to camp and climb with me when we were younger,
before motherhood redirected her efforts )

I expect to start her with a 4,5 or 6 and a single rod until she is doing
well with it

Fast? Slow?


Let her try all of your rods and all of your friends rods....wait a minute,
that didn't come out right....

john...

On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:43:46 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

My lovely bride of 32 years retires in March and will be traveling with me
on my trout bum summers, at least part of the time.


Years ago she took some casting lessons and FFed a bit, but never much

I don't intend to try and make a fly fisher out of her but she has expressed
the desire to try it .. "some"

MY personal taste in rods has gotten faster and faster as my experience has
increased

but I'm thinking a newbie might prefer a slower rod of quality to latest and
greatest broomstick

When it somes to my bride, money is no object with. I'd like opinions on
what rods to put in her hands to try ... knowing that her skills are limited
and will take training to appreciate any tool .... the goal being having her
take to the sport to the degree her nature allows ( she's an outdoor lady
she used to camp and climb with me when we were younger, before motherhood
redirected her efforts )

I expect to start her with a 4,5 or 6 and a single rod until she is doing
well with it

Fast? Slow?

You've been given some good advice if it happens to fit, but you didn't
provide enough info. Is she simply looking to you to make a decision
and is she the type that will be honestly happy with whatever you
decide? Or is she the type that is interested in the process of some or
all such matters? For example, my SO is perfectly content allowing me
to make some choices for her - wine, guns, fishing tools, and similar,
but not others - clothes, furniture, "decor," esp. paint colors, and
similar - and it seems there is NO "in-between" - she has definite and
strong opinions or she has none. Also, "money is no object" covers a
lot of ground - are we talking a coupla-few hundred or a coupla-few
thousand? Will this be _her_ rod, hands off for you, or will it be hers
on the occasions when she chooses to fish, but "community property" for
the most part? Is she (or you) interested in bamboo and silk? Do you
want something that can be passed down in the family? Etc., etc....

Knowing no more than what you've said, I'd offer a longish, middish
action 5 or so with at least two and better, three identical
good-quality lines, a decent reel and a vest and tools if appropriate,
in whatever price range is less than the "no object" range is for you.
I'd then use the remaining portion of the "no object" money for some
refresher lessons from a skilled instructor. I'd then refrain mightily
from "instructing" her unless she specifically asks, and even then, I'd
be tempted to have the aforementioned instructor on speed dial for her
to call and ask HIM.

TC,
R

On Nov 6, 1:43*pm, "Larry L" wrote:

When it somes to my bride, money is no object with. * *I'd like opinions on
what rods to put in her hands to try ... knowing that her skills are limited
and will take training to appreciate any tool .... the goal being having her
take to the sport to the degree her nature allows *( she's an outdoor lady
she used to camp and climb with me when we were younger, before motherhood
redirected her efforts )

Forget that hand me down crap and definitely forget that Temple Fork
excrement.
She needs an 8½' Winston BIIt. You need it too g