tungsten, or, not

"asadi" wrote

shouldn't this involve lead vs. no lead?

john


neither regular beads or tungsten are lead ... or toxic


please use non-toxic split shot, but that is not the bead built into the fly

On Jan 23, 7:15*am, "Larry L" wrote:
The price of tungsten beads always blows my mind ( I bought some today,
fresh reminder )

So, I have a couple questions for you guys that know your nymphing stuff

1) Is the tungsten worth it, does the extra weight really turn into more
fish hooked? *for YOU

I think the only possible advantage to Tungsten is that it is denser
than lead (and of course, less toxic to the environment), so the only
benefit would be to sink a fly faster. I'd be curious to see some
experiment done with two fully dressed flies, dropped into a tall tube
of water, to see if the difference in sink rate is appreciable.

I'd also love to see some streamside data, but I'm not sure how to
gather it. I cast a tungsten-headed WB into fast water with a mental
image of the fly sinking to the bottom quickly, but I wonder if really
only tracking a few inches deeper than a lead head WB because the drag
on the fly, tippet and line counter the limited effect of the bead.

I wonder how much is hype, vs reality.

--riverman

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
The price of tungsten beads always blows my mind ( I bought some today,
fresh reminder )

So, I have a couple questions for you guys that know your nymphing stuff

1) Is the tungsten worth it, does the extra weight really turn into more
fish hooked? for YOU


I would agree the tungsten will get you down faster. I personally prefer
adding split, although I'm not crazy about the hinging effect. I have it in
my head that this technique is better since the nymph acts more natural in a
lighter state??? Don't know if that's true or not.

On the same lines, do any of you ever slip a bead on the tippet and then tie
on your non-beadhead nymph...? Is this effective?

Thanks,
JT

"JT" wrote


On the same lines, do any of you ever slip a bead on the tippet and then
tie on your non-beadhead nymph...? Is this effective?

Thanks,
JT



I have NOT, but yesterday when I was buying beads I asked my buddy that owns
the shop if he thought any given color was better ( I tend to like subtle
and use mostly black ) He then told me a story about fishing with a
PT nymph for a while in a given spot with zero success, clipping it off,
sliding on a gold bead, ala your post, tying back on the exact same fly, and
then catching 3 fish in 4 casts in exactly the same place !!!

I asked if he thought it was fishing depth that had been the factor ... his
impression it was the 'flash' of the gold bead .... I bought gold beads
yesterday G

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"JT" wrote


On the same lines, do any of you ever slip a bead on the tippet and then
tie on your non-beadhead nymph...? Is this effective?

Thanks,
JT



I have NOT, but yesterday when I was buying beads I asked my buddy that
owns the shop if he thought any given color was better ( I tend to like
subtle and use mostly black ) He then told me a story about fishing
with a PT nymph for a while in a given spot with zero success, clipping it
off, sliding on a gold bead, ala your post, tying back on the exact same
fly, and then catching 3 fish in 4 casts in exactly the same place !!!

I asked if he thought it was fishing depth that had been the factor ...
his impression it was the 'flash' of the gold bead .... I bought gold
beads yesterday G


Cool... I also would like to give it a try while bugger fishing, I suppose
you could add a couple beads if you wanted.

JT

In article ,
Larry L writes
) How the hell do you tell, a year or more later, looking into your boxes
which flies are tungsten, which regular bead

Finish the head off in a different coloured thread.

QED

I f you just want your nymph to sink why not flatten some fine lead wire
to make a thin ribbon, and wrap that under the regular tying. Use a
different coloured thread from your non weighted nymphs for easy
identification.
--
Bill Grey