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Old March 29th, 2009, 12:58 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gunpurchase/ownership?

On Mar 28, 8:44*pm, Strabo wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:


T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.
Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


*With gun racks.


TL
Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.


Of course it is. It's just not an enumerated Right.


83. There. Now it is.


Gunner


Ooh! You make me wet.

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu- Hide quoted text -


A lot of people have read that crap for a long, long time. Not all
that many are eager to advertise their ignorance of literature,
philosophy, law, sociology, theology, economics, military strategy and
tactics, morality, history, and their own culture by quoting it.

giles
who notes that these boys are, contrary to any reasonable expectation,
even dumber than our own home grown morons..
  #2  
Old March 29th, 2009, 05:59 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
Gunner Asch
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:58:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 28, 8:44*pm, Strabo wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:


T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.
Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


*With gun racks.


TL
Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.


Of course it is. It's just not an enumerated Right.


83. There. Now it is.


ROFLMAO...nice try.


Gunner


Ooh! You make me wet.


Sorry laddy..Im straight..not into males. But thanks for the kind
words.


"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu- Hide quoted text -


A lot of people have read that crap for a long, long time. Not all
that many are eager to advertise their ignorance of literature,
philosophy, law, sociology, theology, economics, military strategy and
tactics, morality, history, and their own culture by quoting it.


Shrug....the stupid stick with the stupid..the bright rule them all.


giles
who notes that these boys are, contrary to any reasonable expectation,
even dumber than our own home grown morons..


Snicker

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
*
  #3  
Old March 29th, 2009, 06:17 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
Curly Surmudgeon
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:59:36 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:58:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 28, 8:44*pm, Strabo wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:

T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:

Your opinion?

TMT

If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the
same with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug
crime (naturally that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever
drive a car.
Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!

*With gun racks.

TL
Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations
of both to the same standards?

Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Of course it is. It's just not an enumerated Right.


83. There. Now it is.


ROFLMAO...nice try.


Gunner


Ooh! You make me wet.


Sorry laddy..Im straight..not into males. But thanks for the kind words.


"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product A warped piece of wood
must be steamed and forced before it is made straight; a metal blade
must be put to the whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the
nature of people is bad, to become corrected they must be taught by
teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual and moral
principles."
—Sun Tzu- Hide quoted text -


A lot of people have read that crap for a long, long time. Not all that
many are eager to advertise their ignorance of literature, philosophy,
law, sociology, theology, economics, military strategy and tactics,
morality, history, and their own culture by quoting it.


Shrug....the stupid stick with the stupid..


As you were with Bush right up until the end, right? *

--
Regards, Curly
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arrest Bush
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  #4  
Old March 30th, 2009, 12:58 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gunpurchase/ownership?

On Mar 28, 11:59*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:58:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 28, 8:44*pm, Strabo wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day
wrote:


T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.
Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


*With gun racks.


TL
Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.


Of course it is. It's just not an enumerated Right.


83. There. *Now it is.


ROFLMAO...nice try.


Thank you, very kind words.

Gunner


Ooh! *You make me wet.


Sorry laddy..Im straight..not into males. But thanks for the kind
words.


De nada.

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu- Hide quoted text -


A lot of people have read that crap for a long, long time. *Not all
that many are eager to advertise their ignorance of literature,
philosophy, law, sociology, theology, economics, military strategy and
tactics, morality, history, and their own culture by quoting it.


Shrug....the stupid stick with the stupid..the bright rule them all.


Really? When did that start?

giles
who notes that these boys are, contrary to any reasonable expectation,
even dumber than our own home grown morons..


Snicker


Ah, we amuse!

giles
  #5  
Old March 29th, 2009, 06:38 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
Gunner Asch
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:44:28 -0500, Strabo
wrote:


With gun racks.

TL
Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?



Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.


Of course it is. It's just not an enumerated Right.


Really? Then it cant be driven on government property?

Sorry...not a Right.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
*
  #6  
Old March 30th, 2009, 12:38 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
Too_Many_Tools
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gunpurchase/ownership?

On Mar 28, 2:53*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime (naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.


Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


*With gun racks.


TL


Guns can kill the same way that cars can. *Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product*
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu
*


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TMT
  #7  
Old April 3rd, 2009, 08:38 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
lurk[_2_]
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?


"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Mar 28, 2:53 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the
same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime
(naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.


Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


With gun racks.


TL


Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become
corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire ritual
and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........


  #8  
Old April 4th, 2009, 03:40 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?


"lurk" wrote in message
...

"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
...
On Mar 28, 2:53 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do the
same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime
(naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.


Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


With gun racks.


TL


Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the whetstone
before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad, to become
corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire
ritual
and moral principles."
-Sun Tzu


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........


Depends on what the felon did.


  #9  
Old April 4th, 2009, 05:16 AM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
Gunner Asch
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 07:40:04 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:



Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?

TM


wow hope they don't take my hammer and tools away........


Depends on what the felon did.



Not according to the Law

Gunner



"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
  #10  
Old April 4th, 2009, 05:23 PM posted to misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.outdoors.fishing.fly,talk.politics.guns
RD (The Sandman)
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Default OT - Should passing a drug test be a requirement for gun purchase/ownership?

"lurk" wrote in
:


"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
..
. On Mar 28, 2:53 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:12:35 -0500, Another Sunny Day



wrote:
T.L. Davis wrote:
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:48 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" wrote:


Too_Many_Tools wrote in
news:eb25160d-4ad6-4661-
:


Your opinion?


TMT


If we're gonna be so strict about guns and drugs we need to do
the same
with cars and drugs. Anyone with a conviction for any drug crime
(naturally
that includes DUI) should lose the right to ever drive a car.


Well, hell, guess they'll have to drive trucks!!


With gun racks.


TL


Guns can kill the same way that cars can. Why not hold operations of
both to the same standards?


Because gun ownership is a Right, where car ownership is not.

Gunner

"Human nature is bad. Good is a human product
A warped piece of wood must be steamed and forced
before it is made straight; a metal blade must be put to the
whetstone before it becomes sharp. Since the nature of people is bad,
to become corrected
they must be taught by teachers and to be orderly they must acquire
ritual and moral principles."
—Sun Tzu


Actually it is not.

Why does society restrict your so called "right"?

Or are you in favor of felons having the right to a gun?


If they have paid their debt to society, why not?


--
Sleep well, tonight.......

RD (The Sandman)

Some people are like Slinkies...
They are really good for nothing...

But they still bring a smile to your face
when you push them down a flight of stairs.
 




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