Ted Kennedy

Todd wrote:
Ken,
snip

Arguing with you would be like arguing with the dining room table.
I have no desire to do so.

Try to find some time to go fly fishing, and tight lines to you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Aug 30, 8:36*pm, Todd wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
David LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry said:
Tom Littleton wrote:
Well, I suppose we can now expect about 5 days of round-the-clock
homage to the late Sen. Kennedy. ...

Ted Kennedy will be put in the ground on Saturday at Arlington National.
I hope the creeps and the wingnuts will have the decency to wait until
Saturday night to start their hatefest. But I kinda doubt it.

I doubt there will be any "hatefest", unlike the one's I saw being
broken up at Arlington for KIA military.

The hatefest has already started in the right-wing blogosphere and
on the Limbaugh show. I was talking about the creeps and wingnuts
of roff.

Ken,

You need to actually listen to Rush for two weeks or so
before calling what he is doing a "hatefest". *If you
want to hear hate, listen to the Kennedy trashing
Bork or Thomas. *By the way, Rush is playing back
Kennedy's speeches from the senate floor. *Do you
consider judging Kennedy by his own words to be "hate"?

And remember in a political debate, the first one
to call the other one names looses.

Imbecile.

g.
feeling looser already.

On Aug 30, 6:36*pm, Todd wrote:

You need to actually listen to Rush for two weeks or so
before calling what he is doing a "hatefest". *If you
want to hear hate, listen to the Kennedy trashing
Bork or Thomas. *By the way, Rush is playing back
Kennedy's speeches from the senate floor. *Do you
consider judging Kennedy by his own words to be "hate"?

And remember in a political debate, the first one
to call the other one names looses.

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So that name calling loser would be you right? Calling TK a murderer?
So what's this thing you have for Rush? He is a druggie, plain and
simple, an entertainer, with a disease on record usually associated
with unprotected excessive anal abuse. Sad, and I hope he stays clean,
but have you ever questioned why his particular brand of standup is so
appealing to you? Or to that alienated demographic of largely older,
uneducated, couch potatoes which the market research shows he appeals
to, (and which the corporate radio groups purchase to fill the
programming slots of weak market stations)? And if you hate America so
much why do you stay here?

Dave
Ideology Sucks

On 2009-08-26 18:25:31 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:

Well, I suppose we can now expect about 5 days of round-the-clock homage to
the late Sen. Kennedy.

Actually, we Massholes are not looking forward to TWO WEEKS of homage
to Teddy. When Cardinal Maderieros died a few years back, we had his
funeral on for ten days. Even the death of the Pope didn't match that
one.

I didn't like Ted (that goes without saying), but he did his job for
the Massholes who voted for him. Another Kennedy will take his senate
seat.

Dave

HYPOCRITE:

(1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others
for.

(2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to
them.

(3) A person who holds other people to higher standards than he holds
himself.

The only reliable product of an organized liberalism is a flock of
hypocrites who feel that only *their* hypocrisy is divinely
sanctioned.


Yup...that about sums up Ted Kennedy.


I know his death is sad for some, but I refuse to get all worked up
about it. To me, Ted Kennedy was simply a drunken, womanizing murderer
that used his last name to get out of much deserved prison time for
Chappaquiddick. The man defined absolute partisan hypocrisy.

The mere fact that he asked for a law to be changed to allow the
liberal governor to appoint a liberal to take his seat speaks volumes
about his character. His refusal to stand by the law HE helped to pass
which prevented the Republican governor (Romney) from getting that
same power some years back is simply gross.

Kennedy worked tirelessly to raise OUR taxes (the average American
pays about 10% of their income in taxes each year) while he only paid
about .04% of his income in taxes. He had tax shelters in Aruba and
accounts in the names of his family members to avoid paying so much of
his "hard earned" money in taxes. He didn't like paying taxes but
thought that all of us working class people should.

Teddy called him self an environmentalist, yet when a Cape Cod
windmill project threatened to obstruct his sail boating landscape he
tried to get a friend in the Army Corps of Engineers to "investigate"
the project--and find reasons to shoot it down. Too bad for him that
his friend's investigation only pointed out how successful and
positive the Cape Wind project would inevitably be. Again, it seems
that Ted Kennedy was only "green" when the cost or inconvenience
applied to us and not him.

Oh, and lets not forget that he was the guy that created the Obamacare
amendment that excluded members of Congress from the very government
run plan they would create. According to him, the public plan is good
enough for us, but not for him or his politician pals. Smart thinking
on his part I suppose, since a government run plan would surely not
have given him the top notch medical care that he got for the last
year. At his age they would have just offered him a blue pill...

To me, he typified exactly what I can't stand about Democrats. He is
the typical liberal that feels that they should get to play by a
different set of rules than anyone else. I can't support that kind of
blatant hypocrisy.

He was not a man of integrity, certainly not a man of honor and I for
one, will not be sobbing today and talking about "what a great man" he
was. See, what he and all the other liberals of his ilk never seem to
understand is that the TRUE equality that they claim to stand for will
only come when THEY start subjecting themselves to the same oppression
that they want us to suffer under.

What's good for the wealthy elitist geese should always be what's good
for the private sector gander...

On 2009-08-26 19:07:15 -0400, "~^ beancounter ~^" said:

Yup...that about sums up Ted Kennedy.

Look around you. That just about sums up all of humanity, including
you, me, and Kennedy.

"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
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HYPOCRITE:

(1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others
for.

(2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to
them.

(3) A person who holds other people to higher standards than he holds
himself.




and your point being????


John...

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:25:31 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

Well, I suppose we can now expect about 5 days of round-the-clock homage to
the late Sen. Kennedy. Still, when one looks back, it was one heck of an odd
legacy.
The guy starts out as the little brother of a couple of heavy hitters, sort
of the kid the family expects nothing from. Then, just as he's thrust into
prominence, he commits a crime that should have landed him in jail for at
least a few years and gets off, essentially with a stern lecture. Then,
after finally giving up on the whole Presidential idea, he spends 30 years
in which he damn near mastered being a US Senator. I mean that in the
positive sense, as the man learned how to compromise, deal and cajole a very
clumsy mechanism towards many good ends. Even for those that don't agree
with his goals and outcomes, it must be admitted he was as good at making
that body work as anyone, possibly ever. Like I said, an odd course, and a
hard one to reckon, overall.


Thoughts?
Tom

Yes - the only good Kennedy is a Dead Kennedy...

Seriously, he was a piece of **** when breathing, and now, he's dead - that's
life...his death doesn't change my opinion of him. And no, I didn't and don't
"hate" him - I'm not sure that I "hate" anyone, but I think that if I were going
to "hate" someone, it'd be a better man than he. And I'm not sure why, but it
reminds me of something my father once told me about the Klan. He thought they
were a bunch of silly-ass pussies, aside from being racist crackers, and the
reason was, he said, was that if you're going to "hate" someone, at least have
the stones to stand up like a man, open and in the daylight, for all to see, and
make it plain.

There are my (off-hand) thoughts,
R

wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote:
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Thoughts?

Yes - the only good Kennedy is a Dead Kennedy...

Seriously, he was a piece of **** when breathing, and now, he's dead - that's
life...his death doesn't change my opinion of him. ...

The Daily Double has spoken. Rick is both roff's own creep and
wingnut.

Seriously Rick, you're a despicable piece of ****.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:08:21 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
"Tom Littleton" wrote:
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Thoughts?

Yes - the only good Kennedy is a Dead Kennedy...

Seriously, he was a piece of **** when breathing, and now, he's dead - that's
life...his death doesn't change my opinion of him. ...

The Daily Double has spoken. Rick is both roff's own creep and
wingnut.

Seriously Rick, you're a despicable piece of ****.

Maybe, maybe not, but either way, it is of no bearing on Teddy Kennedy being a
piece of ****. And for the record, my disgust with him has nothing to do with
his politics, but rather, the way he conducted himself in his "personal life,"
and encouraged family members to conduct themselves in theirs. For example,
William Smith was _probably_ innocent of rape, but literally under his uncle's
influence, he found himself in trouble.

HTH,
R