Really, guys, I'm trying to get on-board with Obama, but...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Consider this a reply to both you and Rick, you're entitled
to your own opinions but not your own facts.

and you, to your fantasies. This is an example of where turning the Obama
presidency into something it is not serves no one any good. I dare say that,
in some fashion, the world economy would have survived any event that
occurred this calender year, when Obama was in charge.
For you to claim otherwise starts to put you into Beancounter territory.
Tom

Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Consider this a reply to both you and Rick, you're entitled
to your own opinions but not your own facts.

and you, to your fantasies. This is an example of where turning the Obama
presidency into something it is not serves no one any good. I dare say that,
in some fashion, the world economy would have survived any event that
occurred this calender year, when Obama was in charge.
For you to claim otherwise starts to put you into Beancounter territory.

Right-wing, left-wing, no wing, practically every economist and
financial analyst on the planet agreed that the worldwide economy
was headed straight down the toilet. A global depression on a par
with the Great Depression following the Wall Street Crash of 1929
seemed inevitable at the time. That's fact.

Ignoring facts is not healthy.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Right-wing, left-wing, no wing, practically every economist and
financial analyst on the planet agreed that the worldwide economy
was headed straight down the toilet.

really?? When? I must have missed that day in Urbana-world, because what I
heard was a lot of folks fretting over the US economy, and the ripple effect
on the world,
but I heard virtually no one suggest that the world economy was headed down
the flusher in 2009. Now, last year, yes, I did hear that sort of
overreaction(I still contend that, worldwide, it would have worked out. Way
better for some than others, but still, I really don't think things in, say,
Congo have really fluctuated much through this whole mess). Obama, in 2009,
has done VERY little to affect global economics, and much of what he has
wanted to do has been rejected by several European nations. Hence, you are
VASTLY overstating Obama's success, which, in many ways is far more
dangerous to the success of his administration than 100 Beancounter types.
Tom

oh, and Forty........taking the word of 'practically every' economic
'expert' has cost some folks a lot of money over the past few years. Ask
Louie.
Tom

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Tom Littleton wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Consider this a reply to both you and Rick, you're entitled
to your own opinions but not your own facts.


and you, to your fantasies. This is an example of where turning the
Obama presidency into something it is not serves no one any good. I
dare say that, in some fashion, the world economy would have survived
any event that occurred this calender year, when Obama was in charge.
For you to claim otherwise starts to put you into Beancounter territory.


Right-wing, left-wing, no wing, practically every economist and
financial analyst on the planet agreed that the worldwide economy
was headed straight down the toilet. A global depression on a par
with the Great Depression following the Wall Street Crash of 1929
seemed inevitable at the time. That's fact.

Ignoring facts is not healthy.

To be fair, the Bush administration took the first decisive steps to
address the financial crisis with the TARP program. I don't give any
credit to Bush himself, of course, because he's an idiot, but Secretary
of the Treasury Paulson acted quickly. There's a lot to criticize about
the TARP in hindsight, but was necessary and urgent at the time.

To Obama's credit, he more-or-less continued the crisis-management
strategy, passing the stimulus package and renominating Bernanke as Fed
Chairman.

What is beyond belief, IMO, is that the Republican Party continues to
portray themselves as the party of "small government" and "fiscal
responsibility" after the eight long years of Bush Administration
reckless spending, tax cutting, and an optional, expensive, and
unpaid-for war based on lies, all of which was supported in lockstep by
the Republican-controlled Congress. Are we just supposed to believe them
now?

In the Republican world view, if the facts don't fit with their
ideology, then so much the worse for the facts.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

" Beancounter Territory "


thank you....i am honored....

comrad hussein is a fraud...he is a threat to the economic security
of the USA...what's he hiding & why?









On Nov 1, 1:37*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message

... Consider this a reply to both you and Rick, you're entitled
to your own opinions but not your own facts.

and you, to your fantasies. This is an example of where turning the Obama
presidency into something it is not serves no one any good. I dare say that,
in some fashion, the world economy would have survived any event that
occurred this calender year, when Obama was in charge.
For you to claim otherwise starts to put you into Beancounter territory.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Right-wing, left-wing, no wing, practically every economist and
financial analyst on the planet agreed that the worldwide economy
was headed straight down the toilet.

really?? When? ...

Right after the effects of the Lehman Brothers collapse became
apparent and it looked like several other institutions would
follow the same path.

I must have missed that day in Urbana-world, ...

Oh, it happened in your world too, if you were paying attention.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 2009-11-01 16:21:44 -0500, "Tom Littleton" said:

oh, and Forty........taking the word of 'practically every' economic
'expert' has cost some folks a lot of money over the past few years. Ask
Louie.
Tom

Hey, don't draw me into this little fray. You are slicin' and dicin'
him quite well without help from me.

Yeah, Louie lost a lot of money snort, chortle in the past two years.
That's why he bought a beautiful winter mountain home in a gated
community. That's why he *finally* convinced his wife to retire at the
ripe old age of 54

But, I am reminded of Barney Frank ("brftheye's nuttin wong wid Fanny o
Fwedie").

Fortenberry is just overwhelmed, Tom. For the first time in his life
he has a Marxist as president. He doesn't know how to handle it.
Forgive the boy. Let him dream.

Louie
Destitute Are Us

Tom Littleton wrote:
oh, and Forty........taking the word of 'practically every' economic
'expert' has cost some folks a lot of money over the past few years. Ask
Louie.

In matters of economics who am I to believe, Tommy from
Pennsylvania or Paul Krugman, Nobel prize winning economist ?

Hmmmmmm ... boy, that's a tough one ... ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Right after the effects of the Lehman Brothers collapse became
apparent and it looked like several other institutions would
follow the same path.

Ken, do you own and/or use a calender?? That occurred in the fall of 2008,
before the election.
Tom