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DaveS wrote:
On Nov 13, 4:20 pm, rw wrote: Try this mixtu Ill have to try it on beach rotted crab. Wonder how it will do on Coyote poop and Otter slick? Otter slick, that goo they grease their runs with, is about the most obnoxious stuff in nature. Around here one of the worse things that can happen is to have some otters move under your house. Thanx Dave I don't know, Dave. That mixture is specifically designed to neutralize skunk odor. Who knows how it will work on other nasty stuff. Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Nov 14, 11:05*am, rw wrote:
DaveS wrote: On Nov 13, 4:20 pm, rw wrote: Try this mixtu Ill have to try it on beach rotted crab. Wonder how it will do on Coyote poop and Otter slick? Otter slick, that goo they grease their runs with, is about the most obnoxious stuff in nature. Around here one of the worse things that can happen is to have some otters move under your house. Thanx Dave I don't know, Dave. That mixture is specifically designed to neutralize skunk odor. Who knows how it will work on other nasty stuff. Otter slick? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. The otters seem to rub **** and fishy guts on the "slides" leading to water. This seems to help keep the mud from drying out, and makes them slippery. Ive also seen it on rocks leading down from the den area to the water. Once you smell it you always know what it is. Sometimes they use culverts as part of their regular trails to deeper water, food, dens etc. The scat often will have lots of crushed shell bits in it. What Im describing is from observation and conjecture; don't know how it squares with more science based descripts. Dave You score much on the Clearwater this year? |
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Frank Reid © 2008 wrote:
Actually, tomato soup. The same acids that knock down skunk will help fumigate the hound. Frank Reid (who learned this after falling head first into a rotting sea lion corpse) Thanks for the suggestion. The wife took one whiff and headed out to the vet supply store after suggesting in rather strong language that perhaps I should take up bowling instead of fishing. She came back with a shampoo that worked reasonably well. Next time you fall into the rotting corpse of a sea lion send me a note and I'll send you a bottle. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Nov 13, 3:13*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: The catching was slow but the fishing was great. We had incredibly nice weather for early November, bright and sunny and in the mid-50's each afternoon. Which is why the catching was slow, but no matter it was good to be on a river waving a fly rod. The Pere Marquette had a very nice salmon run this year and I didn't need to read the fly shop braggadocio to figure that out. There were still salmon corpses everywhere. And Kaylin rolled around in every goddamn one of them. Why do dogs *do* that ? Ohmigawd, the stench was, and to an extent still is, awful. Any suggestions for getting the smell of dead salmon out of a dog's fur ? Anybody want to make an offer on an 18 month-old yellow Lab ? ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry Ken, You may already know this, but you really need to be careful with dogs around dead salmon. If they eat any, they can get a very nasty parasite that will really make them sick. At least that's the case with Pacific Salmon - may not apply to Great Lakes Salmon, but it would be worth checking with a vet. Bob |
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Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: ... Any suggestions for getting the smell of dead salmon out of a dog's fur ? Anybody want to make an offer on an 18 month-old yellow Lab ? ;-) Ken, You may already know this, but you really need to be careful with dogs around dead salmon. If they eat any, they can get a very nasty parasite that will really make them sick. At least that's the case with Pacific Salmon - may not apply to Great Lakes Salmon, but it would be worth checking with a vet. Thanks Bob, I had heard that and I'll keep an eye on her for the next week. The rickettsial organism that infects the parasite that infects the salmon and the parasite itself rarely occur east of the Cascades. If she starts vomiting and diarrhea we'll go straight to the vet for antibiotics and dewormers. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Nov 13, 3:43*pm, Bob wrote:
On Nov 13, 3:13*pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: The catching was slow but the fishing was great. We had incredibly nice weather for early November, bright and sunny and in the mid-50's each afternoon. Which is why the catching was slow, but no matter it was good to be on a river waving a fly rod. The Pere Marquette had a very nice salmon run this year and I didn't need to read the fly shop braggadocio to figure that out. There were still salmon corpses everywhere. And Kaylin rolled around in every goddamn one of them. Why do dogs *do* that ? Ohmigawd, the stench was, and to an extent still is, awful. Any suggestions for getting the smell of dead salmon out of a dog's fur ? Anybody want to make an offer on an 18 month-old yellow Lab ? ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry Ken, You may already know this, but you really need to be careful with dogs around dead salmon. *If they eat any, they can get a very nasty parasite that will really make them sick. *At least that's the case with Pacific Salmon - may not apply to Great Lakes Salmon, but it would be worth checking with a vet. Bob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For sure what Bob said. Get that **** off him. Around here we always bury salmon remains. The heads are particularly a problem, cooked or raw they get dogs real sick . . . or dead. I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for their long kipes. Johnson's wood soap, or rosemary scented shampoo is what we use when our dog rolls around in dead crabs etc on the beach. Sometimes it takes 2-3 successive baths to get em presentable, and then all the oils is gone and they get cold easy. Best policy is to keep em close when around the stinky stuff. If you catch it right away it pays to pull the dog into the water and soak him all over right away. At least that helps in the salt water. Good luck dave |
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On Nov 13, 6:33*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Nov 13, 3:43*pm, Bob wrote: On Nov 13, 3:13*pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: The catching was slow but the fishing was great. We had incredibly nice weather for early November, bright and sunny and in the mid-50's each afternoon. Which is why the catching was slow, but no matter it was good to be on a river waving a fly rod. The Pere Marquette had a very nice salmon run this year and I didn't need to read the fly shop braggadocio to figure that out. There were still salmon corpses everywhere. And Kaylin rolled around in every goddamn one of them. Why do dogs *do* that ? Ohmigawd, the stench was, and to an extent still is, awful. Any suggestions for getting the smell of dead salmon out of a dog's fur ? Anybody want to make an offer on an 18 month-old yellow Lab ? ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry Ken, You may already know this, but you really need to be careful with dogs around dead salmon. *If they eat any, they can get a very nasty parasite that will really make them sick. *At least that's the case with Pacific Salmon - may not apply to Great Lakes Salmon, but it would be worth checking with a vet. Bob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For sure what Bob said. Get that **** off him. Around here we always bury salmon remains. The heads are particularly a problem, cooked or raw they get dogs real sick . . . or dead. I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for their long kipes. Johnson's wood soap, or rosemary scented shampoo is what we use when our dog rolls around in dead crabs etc on the beach. Sometimes it takes 2-3 successive baths to get em presentable, and then all the oils is gone and they get cold easy. Best policy is to keep em close when around the stinky stuff. If you catch it right away it pays to pull the dog into the water and soak him all over right away. At least that helps in the salt water. Good luck dave Dave, Though the Indians and Aleuts fed/feed their sled dogs salmon they didn't just feed them Chum salmon. In many areas Reds (Sockeye) were/ are the primary species fed. I believe the name Dog Salmon is a reference to the long canine teeth that the males (especially) develop upon - or shortly after - entering fresh water. Bob |
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On Nov 13, 6:57*pm, Bob wrote:
Though the Indians and Aleuts fed/feed their sled dogs salmon they didn't just feed them Chum salmon. In many areas Reds (Sockeye) were/ are the primary species fed. I believe the name Dog Salmon is a reference to the long canine teeth that the males (especially) develop upon - or shortly after - entering fresh water. Bob- Yep that makes sense. The kipe is the "Upturned lower jaw of a male salmon at the end of its life as it returns to fresh water to spawn." Anyway, "Kita" (also spelled Keta) salmon is a much better name for marketing Chum.;+)) Dave |
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DaveS wrote:
I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for their long kipes. dave I thought chum were called dog salmon because of their teeth? Tim Lysyk |
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On Nov 13, 9:24*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
DaveS wrote: I think the Indian dogs must have developed some resistance because they were fed salmon. In fact the Kita (mostly called "chum") salmon are also called "Dog Salmon" but who knows . . . that might be for their long kipes. dave I thought chum were called dog salmon because of their teeth? Tim Lysyk Dog mushers who use salmon to feed dogs usually boil them first. Some still do it, though it's not legal. Usually out of fish wheels on "subsistence permits." |
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