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![]() "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 17:44:11 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... If you saw my post last week, looking for comments on beginner's fly fishing outfits, you know I'm about to take a class. I offered my 14 yr old son the opportunity to join me. He said he wants to learn, but not from a class. "You taught me how to fish - how about you teach me to use a fly rod?" Sometimes, arguing with a 14 yr old is like ****ing into the wind. He will, however, take a book to the bathroom for his daily "one hour on the throne". Anyone got a favorite book which explains tippets, knots, casting ideas, etc? I know that what I'm about to say doesn't answer your question, but others have already done that and it gives me the heebie jeebies to see a thread go this long without morphing, so........ The information you are after juxtaposed against a literal interpretation of the question in the thread subject line suggests an interesting line of rumination. Aside from providing information which, admittedly, is what you are after (and in which they obviously succeed in varying degrees....hence your question), "how to" books don't do much of anything very well. The hallmarks of good instruction are clarity, completeness, factual accuracy, and not much more....or at least that seems to be the consensus among the writers and publishers of "how to" works. Most of them, judged by any other standard (and there are plenty of other applicable standards for writing and reading), are abysmal. In other words, and generally speaking, apart from the more or less tedious to downright painful extraction of information, there is no good reason on God's green Earth for anyone to read any of them. That said, optimism (if not reason) dictates that there must be exceptions. So, MY question is; are there any "how to" fly fishing books (good, bad, or indifferent) that are good books? What I've seen here in reviews of the "Curtis Creek Manifesto" (which I have never seen) suggests this might be a candidate.....yes?, no? maybe so? Yes. Remarkable. Supercilious, vacuous, snide, obtuse, obstructionist, nasty, anti-social, and thick-headed......and all in one short paragraph. Your best work ever. Seriously. Wolfgang |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:05:30 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote: Remarkable. Supercilious, vacuous, snide, obtuse, obstructionist, nasty, anti-social, and thick-headed......and all in one short paragraph. Your best work ever. Seriously. Standard Wolfgang, ascribing your own motives to others. I just answered your question succinctly; the "Curtis Creek Manifesto" is an entertaining and informative "how to" book. The rest is all in your head. -- Charlie... |
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![]() "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:05:30 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: Remarkable. Supercilious, vacuous, snide, obtuse, obstructionist, nasty, anti-social, and thick-headed......and all in one short paragraph. Your best work ever. Seriously. Standard Wolfgang, It's the only grade we got. ascribing your own motives to others. Really? Which parts of my response to Doug did you find supercilious, vacuous, snide, obtuse, obstructionist, nasty, anti-social, and thick-headed? I' sure that the audience is just dying to delve into this at great depth and length. I just answered your question succinctly; O.k., seriously now, why is it that you (and you can just go ahead and answer for the others.....yes, YOU know who you are!) insist that other people believe what you do not? I mean, don't you think that's kind of strange? the "Curtis Creek Manifesto" is an entertaining and informative "how to" book. Good to know. Thanks! The rest is all in your head. The rest of what? Wolfgang (yes, i know it seems cruel, but there's a good reason.......think sheep.....and rubber bands. ![]() |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:37:27 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote: The rest of what? Indeed. -- Charlie... |
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![]() "Charlie Choc" wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:37:27 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: The rest of what? Indeed. Ah! Wolfgang (and thus we see that the rubber bands are safe, benign, hygienic........and infallible.) (class dismissed.) |
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Back to the thread.
Any literary book, something by Rod Haig-Brown, Robert Traver or the like, would be better to peak his interest than any technical book. You can't really learn fly fishing from a book. Good luck to both of you. .. Joel Axelrad **DFD** |
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![]() "Joel Axelrad" wrote in message ... Back to the thread. Any literary book, something by Rod Haig-Brown, Robert Traver or the like, would be better to peak his interest than any technical book. You can't really learn fly fishing from a book. Hell, I can't learn it any other way either. ![]() Good luck to both of you. Thanks. Meant to call you weekend before last. We finally got down to TJ's but it was a last minute thing.....zoomed down.....left a lot of money.....and zoomed back home. Two days ago, the plumbing problem manifested itself once again......to the tune of $550 this time. ![]() I think I need to go fishing. What's your schedule look like for the next couple of weeks? Wolfgang oh, and tell margaret we send our love and best wishes. |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... If you saw my post last week, looking for comments on beginner's fly fishing outfits, you know I'm about to take a class. I offered my 14 yr old son the opportunity to join me. He said he wants to learn, but not from a class. "You taught me how to fish - how about you teach me to use a fly rod?" Sometimes, arguing with a 14 yr old is like ****ing into the wind. He will, however, take a book to the bathroom for his daily "one hour on the throne". Anyone got a favorite book which explains tippets, knots, casting ideas, etc? IMO, the Curtis Creek Manifesto is a cute read, it's the last book anyone should read for learning to fly fish. The Orvis book is a great primer, and Left Kreh just put out a pretty comprehensive book on Fly Fishing - "the Ulitmate Guide to Fly Fishing". Any of the two will give you more than probably want to know to start. |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:27:06 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote: "Joel Axelrad" wrote in message ... Back to the thread. Any literary book, something by Rod Haig-Brown, Robert Traver or the like, would be better to peak his interest than any technical book. You can't really learn fly fishing from a book. Hell, I can't learn it any other way either. ![]() Good luck to both of you. Thanks. Meant to call you weekend before last. We finally got down to TJ's but it was a last minute thing.....zoomed down.....left a lot of money.....and zoomed back home. Two days ago, the plumbing problem manifested itself once again......to the tune of $550 this time. ![]() I think I need to go fishing. What's your schedule look like for the next couple of weeks? Wolfgang oh, and tell margaret we send our love and best wishes. BWOs are coming off big time in the S.W.. Anyone ever tried to fly cast in the days immediately after having their gall bladder removed? What was it like. Mines coming out on the 19th (free to a good home) and I'll be off work for a couple of weeks. Would hate to spend all my recuperation time sitting in front of my computer monitor. g.c. |
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Wolfgang writes...
I think I need to go fishing. What's your schedule look like for the next couple of weeks? Looks good. Any Saturday. Give me several days notice. Wolfgang oh, and tell margaret we send our love and best wishes. I'll send your good wishes to Margaret. She's back and doing well. Keep your pipe wrench handy! Joel Axelrad **DFD** |
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