Spinnerbait Help

DK, sir I have nothing to promote, I have use many brands of
spinnerbaits over the years and even made a few . I own (I paid for
then) about 10 S.O.B spinnerbaits.I don't know if they are the best, I
use them because they have a twisted eye tie, which I prefer.. They are
good quality and priced reasonably..Maybe I was not polite by using all
caps, certainly if I knew Mr. Rickard was going to react like he did, I
would have not used them..Mr. Rickard please accept my apology..





I fish therefore I lie

Capt, you going to have a heart attack if you don't calm down..IMO your
spinnerbaits are over priced,I am allowed to have a opinion aren't I..
I don't own a SW but I have seen one up close and I wasn't all that
impressed...You have a bunch of good old boys here that swear buy SW
spinnerbaits, I hope you are big enough to accept another point of
view..
How do you know that NO BUDDY makes a spinnerbait the costs more,is
better quality , catches more fish and lasts longer? Have you seen and
tried them all?
Maybe we should re-name this NG, the SW news group and we should all
praise your wonderful invention..
At least your getting some free
advertizement out of this..





I fish therefore I lie

This response was just not needed. IMO.

I haven't tried them all, but I have tried quite a few, I do not use SW's
exclusively but I do use them with quite a bit of confidence, They are much
more durable then many if not most of the spinnerbaits I have used. They are
a great buy for the money. They do something that many other spinner baits
don't... they catch fish consitantly. The people involved in Sw are also top
notch... IMO. One question AJH,,,why the attack?

Randy-



"AJH" wrote in message
...
Capt, you going to have a heart attack if you don't calm down..IMO your
spinnerbaits are over priced,I am allowed to have a opinion aren't I..
I don't own a SW but I have seen one up close and I wasn't all that
impressed...You have a bunch of good old boys here that swear buy SW
spinnerbaits, I hope you are big enough to accept another point of
view..
How do you know that NO BUDDY makes a spinnerbait the costs more,is
better quality , catches more fish and lasts longer? Have you seen and
tried them all?
Maybe we should re-name this NG, the SW news group and we should all
praise your wonderful invention..
At least your getting some free
advertizement out of this..





I fish therefore I lie

What attack? I gave my opinion and responded. and later apologized to Mr
Rickard...Looks like a mutual admiration society around here at times..





I fish therefore I lie

I find myself between a rock & a hard place on this issue.

I consider both Bob Rickard (Secret Weapon) and Bill Dees (SOB) to be
friends. I use both products, as well as several other spinnerbaits. My
son's absolute favorite spinnerbait (basically the only one he uses) is an
SOB. One of may favorite spinnerbaits is an early model SW that is on it's
4th skirt.

I have gotten both products in question editorial placement in In-Fisherman
magazine. Both lines are exceptionally well made products and both would be
considered a good value by any angler who appreciates quality. But as long
as there are mexican made strike king lowballs out there retailing for less
than 3 bucks at Al's favorite tackle outlet, and garage operations selling
spinnerbaits for less than the cost of quality components, there are those
who will consider them both to be overpriced.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Testimonials are a good thing, as long as they are an honest statement
of a personal experience with a product...and that is what they are, a
"personal" expeience! Many years ago, I tried a plastic worm called an
"Otay Special", I tore the bass a new one with it (a personal
experience), I don't know if the lure manufacturer got rich off of
it...but he should have with all the "testimonials" I did g!
This thread is about spinner baits...what to use, how to use it, the
"what" to use was discussed with some "enthusiasim", whether there was a
vested interest "coloring" some of that discussion is not important to
me....I can make my own judgements....it's the informatiom we share that
is the important issue...and after hearing that information, In my
opinion, two very good products were offered for consideration, and
thats "free enterprise" grin! Now just tell me how to improve my
technique with those "damn" spinner baits...they always have been my
weak suit!
JK

DG,

Being from Southeastern Michigan and fishing most of the same waters, let me
give you some assistance. Charles color selection was good, (Wounded Shad,
White Shad, Baby Bass, Grass Craw, Green Goddess and Rock Craw). Although
his lure weight was off. 1/2 & 3/4-ounce spinnerbaits are much better for
you here in Michigan. Especially with its gin clear water. Why? Because
with tandem willowleaf, or Indiana (which I prefer) there is enough
resistance that they will stay on top with a steady retrieve (6.3:1 gear
ratio baitcaster and using a 6'6" or 7' rod). But with the added weight you
can slow roll them in 15+ feet quite easily. Remember, the best depth to
run a spinnerbait is the depth where you can barely see the blades and
skirt, and where the lure is just ticking the top of structure and cover.

Now with SW lures, their blades are a little smaller than most manufacturers
(at least they were in the past). So if you like running a #6 blade, than
order a #7. Here in Michigan running a gold & chrome tandem combo seems to
be best for general purpose. Indiana blades also work better, because
everybody is throwing willowleaf, so it give the bass a little different
look and sound. Order a few extra blades just to deal with all the
different conditions. Get some #3, #4, #5, #6, and #7 in Chrome, Gold,
White, Chartreuse. In the late summer & early fall you can add four or five
#3 blades together to create a school effect that is killer.

I also modify Bob's SW by shorting the blade arm, which make them vibrate
more and wiggle side to side. I do a few other things too, that makes them
even more different than what's out there, and that help to produce more
fish. Email me, and I will share them with you.

--
Craig Baugher

Greetings, Dickie.

What an entertaining thread you've started here! g Not only have you dug
up some great advice, you've reaffirmed Bob's ticker can still pump on
overtime!

Color - go subtle in those little clear lakes. I'll echo Charles'
outstanding advise on Wounded Shad, Baby Bass and Green Goddess. I'd only
add my personal favorites of Silver Shad and Golden Shiner.

Size - Charles' advise to go smaller is again, words right outta my mouth. I
prefer a smaller profile on water such as you describe, and I've caught some
pretty decent fish on the 1/8 size, but I think the1/4 oz. unit is the most
versatile. It has a quieter entry when targeting shallow water bass, and
you can add weight to the hook shank when you want to go deeper.

Blades - here's the real advantage to SWL. I'm no mathemetician (I can't
even spell mathemetician!) but I'll gander a guess that I can create a
kazillion combinations with 5 heads and the 60 or so blades I own.
Tip/Trick - take your typical tandem blade combination and lose the larger,
trailing blade. You can burn that baby under the surface without roll-over
and, it'll also maintain depth (because of less lift) when you want it to
run 6-10' under.

Suggestion to SWL - Starter Pack. Pick three universal color combinations
and give each one a different blade configuration. Make it available in 1/4,
3/8 and 1/2 oz packs. Do the math on blade combinations, break it down to
cost per configuration, and publish it.

--
Early to Bed, Early to Rise,
Fish all Day, Make up Lies.

Shawn


"Dickie Greenleaf" wrote in message
...
Hello all...

I typically throw soft plastics and have been fairly successful catching
quite a few bass this year in the 3 to 5 lb. range. Recently, I've had
some
very limited success with spinnerbaits, and am looking to increase my
confidence in this lure type for largemouth bass.

I have lurked in this group for the past few years and have read a number
of
posts proclaiming the Secret Weapon spinnerbait system and am ready to
take
the plunge. The fact I will be supporting a small company with roots in
this
group makes it an obvious slam dunk.

I mainly shore fish, but sometimes wander out on my 10 foot inflatable
with
30lb. trolling motor. The lakes and ponds I frequent in southeast
Michigan,
are typically smallish and some are of the backwoods variety. They are
typically gin clear.

Now to the point... Since I am completely baffled by the numerous
varieties,
I am looking for recommendations on color and blade variety that would be
most likely to succeed based on my location and fishing tactics.

Any and all tips, suggestions, and hlep will be *greatly* appreciated.

Great group by the way. Thanks!

--
DG

Wow, everyone, thanks for all the advice.

Becoming an efficient spinnerbait fisherman is a goal of mine, as I've
seemed to fall into a rut with soft plastics; especially the Senko. Don't
get me wrong, I LOVE this lure, but some times I feel "lost" when I'm not
getting bites on soft plastics. That's why I'm dedicating the remainder of
this season to the spinnerbait. I need to gain confidence, that's the bottom
line.

It's funny, I can throw a Black with Blue fleck 5" Senko all evening and
only get a few bites, but I will NEVER lose confidence in this lure. That's
where I want to be with the spinnerbait. Then, maybe from there, I'll move
on to the crankbait, which falls dead last in my tackle box.

I'm going to take Charles' advice on color selection, while heeding Craig's
advice on size since he nailed my setup perfectly; Shimano Curado on a BPS
6'6" Medium Heavy Extreme XPS rod.

Once again, thanks!

______
Dickie


"Dickie Greenleaf" wrote in message
...
Hello all...

I typically throw soft plastics and have been fairly successful catching
quite a few bass this year in the 3 to 5 lb. range. Recently, I've had
some
very limited success with spinnerbaits, and am looking to increase my
confidence in this lure type for largemouth bass.

I have lurked in this group for the past few years and have read a number
of
posts proclaiming the Secret Weapon spinnerbait system and am ready to
take
the plunge. The fact I will be supporting a small company with roots in
this
group makes it an obvious slam dunk.

I mainly shore fish, but sometimes wander out on my 10 foot inflatable
with
30lb. trolling motor. The lakes and ponds I frequent in southeast
Michigan,
are typically smallish and some are of the backwoods variety. They are
typically gin clear.

Now to the point... Since I am completely baffled by the numerous
varieties,
I am looking for recommendations on color and blade variety that would be
most likely to succeed based on my location and fishing tactics.

Any and all tips, suggestions, and hlep will be *greatly* appreciated.

Great group by the way. Thanks!

--
DG

Dickie, I read most of this thread with great amusement,

Here is one more piece of advice for the rest of the season. Carry only two
rods with you, have the 1st rigged
with a spinnerbait. Rig the 2nd with a spinnerbait. At's right , carry no
other lures. Fish at least 4hrs. each time.

I promise you will learn to fish these versatile lures .

P.S. SWL is my preferred spinnerbait . Between them and a Senko or Fin-S
it's all I fish in th fall .

--
Dave Norton
Millennium Rods
"Dickie Greenleaf" wrote in message
...
Wow, everyone, thanks for all the advice.

Becoming an efficient spinnerbait fisherman is a goal of mine, as I've
seemed to fall into a rut with soft plastics; especially the Senko. Don't
get me wrong, I LOVE this lure, but some times I feel "lost" when I'm not
getting bites on soft plastics. That's why I'm dedicating the remainder of
this season to the spinnerbait. I need to gain confidence, that's the
bottom
line.

It's funny, I can throw a Black with Blue fleck 5" Senko all evening and
only get a few bites, but I will NEVER lose confidence in this lure.
That's
where I want to be with the spinnerbait. Then, maybe from there, I'll move
on to the crankbait, which falls dead last in my tackle box.

I'm going to take Charles' advice on color selection, while heeding
Craig's
advice on size since he nailed my setup perfectly; Shimano Curado on a BPS
6'6" Medium Heavy Extreme XPS rod.

Once again, thanks!

______
Dickie


"Dickie Greenleaf" wrote in message
...
Hello all...

I typically throw soft plastics and have been fairly successful catching
quite a few bass this year in the 3 to 5 lb. range. Recently, I've had
some
very limited success with spinnerbaits, and am looking to increase my
confidence in this lure type for largemouth bass.

I have lurked in this group for the past few years and have read a
number
of
posts proclaiming the Secret Weapon spinnerbait system and am ready to
take
the plunge. The fact I will be supporting a small company with roots in
this
group makes it an obvious slam dunk.

I mainly shore fish, but sometimes wander out on my 10 foot inflatable
with
30lb. trolling motor. The lakes and ponds I frequent in southeast
Michigan,
are typically smallish and some are of the backwoods variety. They are
typically gin clear.

Now to the point... Since I am completely baffled by the numerous
varieties,
I am looking for recommendations on color and blade variety that would
be
most likely to succeed based on my location and fishing tactics.

Any and all tips, suggestions, and hlep will be *greatly* appreciated.

Great group by the way. Thanks!

--
DG