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Old July 15th, 2004, 12:34 AM
Sarge
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Warren wrote: 'Sarge, can you please elaborate on this statement? Why would
this be? Also, the hook in Rich's photo looks nothing like a circle hook to
me, why do you call it one?"

Warren, I did not see the original post so I went back and retrieved it. I
looked at the hook and it is considered by industry as a standard "J" hook
design. This type of hook is designed to be set by the angler when he
receives a strike. I only mentioned circle hook because it was in the first
post I read. Now to a circle hook by design is made for the fish to hook
its self. It was engineered for that purpose. It works a lot better when
it tied on by snelling the hook. This holds the hook straight in line with
the line. I dish a lot of offshore and when a fish takes off with the bait,
it hooks it self.

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A larger
hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a hook hinders
more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise he landed the
fish.

I fish very little freshwater and do use "J" hooks only when I buy unpainted
lead jigs. If I fish live bait I use Eagle Claw Lazer hooks. All my hooks
are tied on using a palmor knot either directly to the braid line or a 15 LB
test mono leader. The only time I use circle hooks when jigging or drop
fishing offshore.

When I do fish freshwater, I use either a offset hook for worm fishing, a
standard worm hook, spinnerbaits or crankbaits.


Sarge


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Old July 15th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Scott Seidman
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"Sarge" wrote in
:

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A
larger hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a
hook hinders more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise
he landed the fish.


The hook looks small to me, too. I'd think it would increase the risk of
deep hookups

Scott
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Old July 15th, 2004, 03:51 PM
Scott Seidman
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"Sarge" wrote in
:

Personally the hook looks a little small compared to the fish. A
larger hook would possibly help with better hook set. Too small of a
hook hinders more then it helps. Looking at the picture I am surprise
he landed the fish.


The hook looks small to me, too. I'd think it would increase the risk of
deep hookups

Scott
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Old July 15th, 2004, 01:38 AM
RichZ
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Sarge wrote:

One reason you lose so many fish


??? Who said anything about losing 'so many fish'?

that hook is considered a circle hook.

THAT hook is absolutely NOT a circle hook. It's not even close to a hybrid
circle hook, much less a true circle hook.


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Old July 15th, 2004, 01:38 AM
RichZ
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Sarge wrote:

One reason you lose so many fish


??? Who said anything about losing 'so many fish'?

that hook is considered a circle hook.

THAT hook is absolutely NOT a circle hook. It's not even close to a hybrid
circle hook, much less a true circle hook.


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Old July 15th, 2004, 01:38 AM
RichZ
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Steve wrote:
I am guessing that the pic was a drop shot bass. I have very little
experience with drop shotting. Do you always use such a small hook?


Right on the DS, and when using light drop shot gear and small lures, I
usually use a hook slightly smaller (and a lot thinner wire) than that
hook. Only reason I used those was I got 'em to test and I was out of my
prefered drop shot hook. There's really no need for a bigger hook when drop
shotting in reasonably open water with light line.

But when I go 'Bubba shot' fishing, in the weeds or in the barges at the
hudson, I use a 3/0 Texposer. (Check out the article in the Aug. In-Fish)

RichZ©
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Old July 15th, 2004, 01:38 AM
RichZ
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Steve wrote:
I am guessing that the pic was a drop shot bass. I have very little
experience with drop shotting. Do you always use such a small hook?


Right on the DS, and when using light drop shot gear and small lures, I
usually use a hook slightly smaller (and a lot thinner wire) than that
hook. Only reason I used those was I got 'em to test and I was out of my
prefered drop shot hook. There's really no need for a bigger hook when drop
shotting in reasonably open water with light line.

But when I go 'Bubba shot' fishing, in the weeds or in the barges at the
hudson, I use a 3/0 Texposer. (Check out the article in the Aug. In-Fish)

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

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Old July 15th, 2004, 02:46 AM
Lure builder
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my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe that
the fish was landed with that hookset.
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Old July 15th, 2004, 04:19 AM
go-bassn
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You find RichZ hard to believe? That's almost funny...

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"Lure builder" wrote in message
...
my question is what bait was on that small hook and why in the picture is

the
bait missing, sorry that was two questions, i find it also hard to believe

that
the fish was landed with that hookset.



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Old July 15th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Lure builder
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You find RichZ hard to believe? That's almost funny...

Warren


richz did not say it was his fish, when a fish is hooked and on retrieve the
hook can move about within the fish's mouth, so i wasn't doubting richz, but i
have no trouble doubting you..lol
 




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