Night Tournament (7/24/04)

besides catching my biggest fish of the year Sunday morning, nope. I had one
bite Sunday and that was the fish. I couldn't even get a tail tugger after
that but I knew after that fish not to expect anything for the rest of the
morning.
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
...
Musta just been a bad weekend.... Anyone else have any luck?


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys. Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna go put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and found fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would probably be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick released at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the back of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a 2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was 2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

You're right about the Delaware - I tell people not to even bother
prefishing, it's a waste of time. Alot of people expected me to finish
highly in yesterday's tournament, including myself. When I got in I pulled
up next to one of the Federation's best guys. He had 2 small keepers. He
asked me if I wrecked em & I laughed. Basically he said you had to get
lucky out there, it had nothing to do with skill. My rider (he got 1
keeper) said he could see me catching a whole boatload of fish "the way I
fished" lol.

Sometimes it's just tough as nails & there's no explanation. It's all good
though...

Hopefully I'll do better up at the Hudson in the BASS Open next month. I
sure couldn't do worse...

Warren


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
The delaware doesn't count that's not a normal body of water.. I've caught
two smallmouths on the delaware in two years, One, my biggest at just
under
4 pounds the other a 5 inch smallie that took Dave's hair last year.

What I was trying to relay is that many of us head out with expectations
of
winning a tourny or catching some good fish and very few of us actually
come
in saying "I knew it was gonna be like this". I have never been in a
tourny
that I didn't think I was gonna win, call it confidence or stupidity...
but
I haven't won one yet.(dress bets and hair bets excluded) Granted I
haven't
entered into a whole bunch, but I still think I can win every one or
outfish
just about anyone on neutral grounds and would be willing to take anyone
on
no matter where it is just for the competition. Ok never mind I'm a
junkie..
I figured it out Thanks :-)
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys. Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna go put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and found fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would probably be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick released at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the back of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a 2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was 2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

You're right about the Delaware - I tell people not to even bother
prefishing, it's a waste of time. Alot of people expected me to finish
highly in yesterday's tournament, including myself. When I got in I pulled
up next to one of the Federation's best guys. He had 2 small keepers. He
asked me if I wrecked em & I laughed. Basically he said you had to get
lucky out there, it had nothing to do with skill. My rider (he got 1
keeper) said he could see me catching a whole boatload of fish "the way I
fished" lol.

Sometimes it's just tough as nails & there's no explanation. It's all good
though...

Hopefully I'll do better up at the Hudson in the BASS Open next month. I
sure couldn't do worse...

Warren


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
The delaware doesn't count that's not a normal body of water.. I've caught
two smallmouths on the delaware in two years, One, my biggest at just
under
4 pounds the other a 5 inch smallie that took Dave's hair last year.

What I was trying to relay is that many of us head out with expectations
of
winning a tourny or catching some good fish and very few of us actually
come
in saying "I knew it was gonna be like this". I have never been in a
tourny
that I didn't think I was gonna win, call it confidence or stupidity...
but
I haven't won one yet.(dress bets and hair bets excluded) Granted I
haven't
entered into a whole bunch, but I still think I can win every one or
outfish
just about anyone on neutral grounds and would be willing to take anyone
on
no matter where it is just for the competition. Ok never mind I'm a
junkie..
I figured it out Thanks :-)
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys. Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna go put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and found fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would probably be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick released at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the back of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a 2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was 2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

Let them hold a Classic on the Delaware and many pro's will reconsider full
time fishing
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right about the Delaware - I tell people not to even bother
prefishing, it's a waste of time. Alot of people expected me to finish
highly in yesterday's tournament, including myself. When I got in I
pulled
up next to one of the Federation's best guys. He had 2 small keepers. He
asked me if I wrecked em & I laughed. Basically he said you had to get
lucky out there, it had nothing to do with skill. My rider (he got 1
keeper) said he could see me catching a whole boatload of fish "the way I
fished" lol.

Sometimes it's just tough as nails & there's no explanation. It's all
good
though...

Hopefully I'll do better up at the Hudson in the BASS Open next month. I
sure couldn't do worse...

Warren


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
The delaware doesn't count that's not a normal body of water.. I've
caught
two smallmouths on the delaware in two years, One, my biggest at just
under
4 pounds the other a 5 inch smallie that took Dave's hair last year.

What I was trying to relay is that many of us head out with
expectations
of
winning a tourny or catching some good fish and very few of us actually
come
in saying "I knew it was gonna be like this". I have never been in a
tourny
that I didn't think I was gonna win, call it confidence or stupidity...
but
I haven't won one yet.(dress bets and hair bets excluded) Granted I
haven't
entered into a whole bunch, but I still think I can win every one or
outfish
just about anyone on neutral grounds and would be willing to take anyone
on
no matter where it is just for the competition. Ok never mind I'm a
junkie..
I figured it out Thanks :-)
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys.
Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna go
put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the
past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and found
fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would probably
be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good
sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick released
at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking
anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the back
of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a
2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First
place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was
2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

Charles wrote:
Musta just been a bad weekend.... Anyone else have any luck?


Sure, all you gotta do is fish Champlain instead of places that wish they
had a fish population like Champlain does.G

We arrived at Sportsmans Cottages by the Crown Point Bridge on Friday night
shortly after the rain (4" on Friday) stopped up there. 6AM on Saturday,
Tom & I were ready to go do some serious nut flipping in South Bay. The
riverine southern end of Champlain looked like coffee with cream. South Bay
though, was its usual, dingy green self, except close to the outlet into
the river/lake. The surface temp in the bay was 76, and there was a
moderately stiff breeze out of the east-north-east. Fishing started of like
gangbusters, and we got 7 fish like these in the first hour and lost almost
that many more.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/nut_1_tom.jpg

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/rich_nut_1.jpg

The hot deal was pitching Texas rigged Ozmo onto the chestnut and dragging
it along until either it found a hole or a fish made a hole trying to get
at it, then dropping it into the hole. I think we only caught one fish
actually flipping to existing holes. Seemed like we had to make a little
commotion on top to draw their attention first. The fish were all pretty
much carbon copies of each other, in the 3 to 3-1/4 pound range.

It really seemed like it was going to be a killer day in the nut. But it
was not to be. The wind kept shifting ever more northerly and getting
stronger and stronger. The wind and mud kept us confined to south bay, as
the river was ridiculously muddy from the rain the day before. On Champlain
a north wind backs the water up in the canal and pushes water into south
bay, so that too was becoming muddier by the hour. And the fishing tougher.

With only 3 more fish after that first hour and conditions becoming more
and more difficult to deal with, we decided to pack it in at about 1. We
put the boat on the trailer and headed up 22 to the crown point bridge. As
we were crossing the bridge, we noted that the wind direction left some of
our favorite spots just south of the bridge protected, so we put the boat
in the water and gave it a shot. We caught a half-dozen pound-and-a-quarter
bass for our efforts, plus the highlight of the day -- at least until we
got a look at it...

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/beat_this.jpg

I gave Tom a hard time, because he had switched from the Ozmo we'd been
catching all our fish on, to one of his old standby Green Pumpkin/Green
flake Baby Brush Hogs when the fishing got tough, and THIS was the result?
All of the bass (and the drum, for what it's worth) came from 8 to 10 feet
of water in a sparsely vegetated band between a heavy milfoil bed and some
deeper growing cabbage.

On Sunday morning, the plan was to launch at the bridge if the water was
flat, and give an old favorite spot that I hadn't visited in several years
a quick shot, then pull the boat out and head down to Larabee's Point
(across from Ticonderoga) and put it back in to fish some of the prime
milfoil beds down there. When you're running a 14-1/2 footer with a 20, you
don't make that run on the water. Sometimes I miss having a 20 foot bass
boat with a 200. Then I stop at the gas pump and get away with a $5 bill
after a weekend on Champlain and the fond longing goes away fast!

Sunday started off according to plan. Nice, clear water north of the
bridge, and a surface temp of only 64 degrees. That's really low for late
July, and it was pretty apparent that a lot of cold water from the "big"
section up above had been blown south over the previous 2 days. I don't
mind the cooling water, and I do love the morning twilight period. My 2nd
cast with the T-rigged Ozmo earned me this one.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/...orning_pig.jpg

Sorry about the flash washout on the bass's belly. I was more concerned
with making another cast than in trying to get a perfect photo. The next
hour produced another 5 fish -- 4 in the 3 pound range and one little rat.
The wind was still laying flat. We knew what we were dealing with in this
stretch of water, and we had no idea whether or not the mud had worked its
way north as far as Ti when the wing layed down. So much for plan A. We
decided to stay in the general area of the bridge. We checked another
couple normally productive spots within 5 miles or so of the bridge and got
nothing till we hit the same spot we'd fished the night before. Then for
more than a half-hour, we caught bass almost non-stop. Tom was throwing a
Texas Rigged green pumpkin creature bait (There's that Ozmo again), and I
was drop shotting a 4.75" Green Weenie Rascal Worm. The fish were deeper
than we'd found them the day before -- 12 to 14 feet, on the outside of the
cabbage (pondweed) and they weren't especially large. Mostly in the 1-1/2
to 2 pound range, with a couple that might've gone an ounce or two more.
But it was almost a fish on every cast, and we weren't about to move until
they turned off. And eventually, they did just that. It went from one fish
after another to a 15 minutes without a bite, just like someone threw a
switch. Then I finally got a hit and caught a northern pike about 5 pounds
(on the drop shot rig with 4 pound line, it was a blast and a half). We
worked all around the point, from deep to shallow and back again, and never
made contact with the bass again.

We hit another three or four spots very quickly, then went back north of
the bridge to the long point we'd started on in the morning. We spent the
rest of the day there, and it seemed like every half-hour or so, we'd get
three or four fish in five minutes, then go another half hour or forty-five
minutes before we hit another little flurry. We weren't moving, so it
seemed like the fish must be. All of Tom's afternoon fish came on T-rigged
creatures (both the Ozmo and the baby brush hog) and all of mine came on
the drop shot rig. This one was pretty typical of the fish we were getting
on and off all afternoon.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/drop_shot1.jpg


RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

Nice hat Rich!

WW

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Charles wrote:
Musta just been a bad weekend.... Anyone else have any luck?


Sure, all you gotta do is fish Champlain instead of places that wish they
had a fish population like Champlain does.G

We arrived at Sportsmans Cottages by the Crown Point Bridge on Friday
night
shortly after the rain (4" on Friday) stopped up there. 6AM on Saturday,
Tom & I were ready to go do some serious nut flipping in South Bay. The
riverine southern end of Champlain looked like coffee with cream. South
Bay
though, was its usual, dingy green self, except close to the outlet into
the river/lake. The surface temp in the bay was 76, and there was a
moderately stiff breeze out of the east-north-east. Fishing started of
like
gangbusters, and we got 7 fish like these in the first hour and lost
almost
that many more.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/nut_1_tom.jpg

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/rich_nut_1.jpg

The hot deal was pitching Texas rigged Ozmo onto the chestnut and dragging
it along until either it found a hole or a fish made a hole trying to get
at it, then dropping it into the hole. I think we only caught one fish
actually flipping to existing holes. Seemed like we had to make a little
commotion on top to draw their attention first. The fish were all pretty
much carbon copies of each other, in the 3 to 3-1/4 pound range.

It really seemed like it was going to be a killer day in the nut. But it
was not to be. The wind kept shifting ever more northerly and getting
stronger and stronger. The wind and mud kept us confined to south bay, as
the river was ridiculously muddy from the rain the day before. On
Champlain
a north wind backs the water up in the canal and pushes water into south
bay, so that too was becoming muddier by the hour. And the fishing
tougher.

With only 3 more fish after that first hour and conditions becoming more
and more difficult to deal with, we decided to pack it in at about 1. We
put the boat on the trailer and headed up 22 to the crown point bridge. As
we were crossing the bridge, we noted that the wind direction left some of
our favorite spots just south of the bridge protected, so we put the boat
in the water and gave it a shot. We caught a half-dozen
pound-and-a-quarter
bass for our efforts, plus the highlight of the day -- at least until we
got a look at it...

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/beat_this.jpg

I gave Tom a hard time, because he had switched from the Ozmo we'd been
catching all our fish on, to one of his old standby Green Pumpkin/Green
flake Baby Brush Hogs when the fishing got tough, and THIS was the result?
All of the bass (and the drum, for what it's worth) came from 8 to 10 feet
of water in a sparsely vegetated band between a heavy milfoil bed and some
deeper growing cabbage.

On Sunday morning, the plan was to launch at the bridge if the water was
flat, and give an old favorite spot that I hadn't visited in several years
a quick shot, then pull the boat out and head down to Larabee's Point
(across from Ticonderoga) and put it back in to fish some of the prime
milfoil beds down there. When you're running a 14-1/2 footer with a 20,
you
don't make that run on the water. Sometimes I miss having a 20 foot bass
boat with a 200. Then I stop at the gas pump and get away with a $5 bill
after a weekend on Champlain and the fond longing goes away fast!

Sunday started off according to plan. Nice, clear water north of the
bridge, and a surface temp of only 64 degrees. That's really low for late
July, and it was pretty apparent that a lot of cold water from the "big"
section up above had been blown south over the previous 2 days. I don't
mind the cooling water, and I do love the morning twilight period. My 2nd
cast with the T-rigged Ozmo earned me this one.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/...orning_pig.jpg

Sorry about the flash washout on the bass's belly. I was more concerned
with making another cast than in trying to get a perfect photo. The next
hour produced another 5 fish -- 4 in the 3 pound range and one little rat.
The wind was still laying flat. We knew what we were dealing with in this
stretch of water, and we had no idea whether or not the mud had worked its
way north as far as Ti when the wing layed down. So much for plan A. We
decided to stay in the general area of the bridge. We checked another
couple normally productive spots within 5 miles or so of the bridge and
got
nothing till we hit the same spot we'd fished the night before. Then for
more than a half-hour, we caught bass almost non-stop. Tom was throwing a
Texas Rigged green pumpkin creature bait (There's that Ozmo again), and I
was drop shotting a 4.75" Green Weenie Rascal Worm. The fish were deeper
than we'd found them the day before -- 12 to 14 feet, on the outside of
the
cabbage (pondweed) and they weren't especially large. Mostly in the 1-1/2
to 2 pound range, with a couple that might've gone an ounce or two more.
But it was almost a fish on every cast, and we weren't about to move until
they turned off. And eventually, they did just that. It went from one
fish
after another to a 15 minutes without a bite, just like someone threw a
switch. Then I finally got a hit and caught a northern pike about 5 pounds
(on the drop shot rig with 4 pound line, it was a blast and a half). We
worked all around the point, from deep to shallow and back again, and
never
made contact with the bass again.

We hit another three or four spots very quickly, then went back north of
the bridge to the long point we'd started on in the morning. We spent the
rest of the day there, and it seemed like every half-hour or so, we'd get
three or four fish in five minutes, then go another half hour or
forty-five
minutes before we hit another little flurry. We weren't moving, so it
seemed like the fish must be. All of Tom's afternoon fish came on T-rigged
creatures (both the Ozmo and the baby brush hog) and all of mine came on
the drop shot rig. This one was pretty typical of the fish we were getting
on and off all afternoon.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/drop_shot1.jpg


RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing

lol, I'd kill to see what the pros would do on the Big D...

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...

Let them hold a Classic on the Delaware and many pro's will reconsider
full
time fishing
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right about the Delaware - I tell people not to even bother
prefishing, it's a waste of time. Alot of people expected me to finish
highly in yesterday's tournament, including myself. When I got in I
pulled
up next to one of the Federation's best guys. He had 2 small keepers.
He
asked me if I wrecked em & I laughed. Basically he said you had to get
lucky out there, it had nothing to do with skill. My rider (he got 1
keeper) said he could see me catching a whole boatload of fish "the way
I
fished" lol.

Sometimes it's just tough as nails & there's no explanation. It's all
good
though...

Hopefully I'll do better up at the Hudson in the BASS Open next month.
I
sure couldn't do worse...

Warren


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
The delaware doesn't count that's not a normal body of water.. I've
caught
two smallmouths on the delaware in two years, One, my biggest at just
under
4 pounds the other a 5 inch smallie that took Dave's hair last year.

What I was trying to relay is that many of us head out with
expectations
of
winning a tourny or catching some good fish and very few of us
actually
come
in saying "I knew it was gonna be like this". I have never been in a
tourny
that I didn't think I was gonna win, call it confidence or
stupidity...
but
I haven't won one yet.(dress bets and hair bets excluded) Granted I
haven't
entered into a whole bunch, but I still think I can win every one or
outfish
just about anyone on neutral grounds and would be willing to take
anyone
on
no matter where it is just for the competition. Ok never mind I'm a
junkie..
I figured it out Thanks :-)
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This
is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad
after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys.
Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna go
put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the
club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the
past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and found
fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would probably
be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good
sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick
released
at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking
anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the back
of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a
2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still
shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First
place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was
2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

lol, I'd kill to see what the pros would do on the Big D...

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...

Let them hold a Classic on the Delaware and many pro's will reconsider
full
time fishing
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right about the Delaware - I tell people not to even bother
prefishing, it's a waste of time. Alot of people expected me to finish
highly in yesterday's tournament, including myself. When I got in I
pulled
up next to one of the Federation's best guys. He had 2 small keepers.
He
asked me if I wrecked em & I laughed. Basically he said you had to get
lucky out there, it had nothing to do with skill. My rider (he got 1
keeper) said he could see me catching a whole boatload of fish "the way
I
fished" lol.

Sometimes it's just tough as nails & there's no explanation. It's all
good
though...

Hopefully I'll do better up at the Hudson in the BASS Open next month.
I
sure couldn't do worse...

Warren


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
The delaware doesn't count that's not a normal body of water.. I've
caught
two smallmouths on the delaware in two years, One, my biggest at just
under
4 pounds the other a 5 inch smallie that took Dave's hair last year.

What I was trying to relay is that many of us head out with
expectations
of
winning a tourny or catching some good fish and very few of us
actually
come
in saying "I knew it was gonna be like this". I have never been in a
tourny
that I didn't think I was gonna win, call it confidence or
stupidity...
but
I haven't won one yet.(dress bets and hair bets excluded) Granted I
haven't
entered into a whole bunch, but I still think I can win every one or
outfish
just about anyone on neutral grounds and would be willing to take
anyone
on
no matter where it is just for the competition. Ok never mind I'm a
junkie..
I figured it out Thanks :-)
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This
is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad
after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys.
Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna go
put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the
club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the
past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and found
fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would probably
be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good
sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick
released
at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking
anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the back
of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a
2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still
shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First
place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was
2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

Well heading to Pittsburgh won't be an easy ticket either, but it ain't no
Delaware.
Randy


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
lol, I'd kill to see what the pros would do on the Big D...

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...

Let them hold a Classic on the Delaware and many pro's will reconsider
full
time fishing
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right about the Delaware - I tell people not to even bother
prefishing, it's a waste of time. Alot of people expected me to
finish
highly in yesterday's tournament, including myself. When I got in I
pulled
up next to one of the Federation's best guys. He had 2 small keepers.
He
asked me if I wrecked em & I laughed. Basically he said you had to
get
lucky out there, it had nothing to do with skill. My rider (he got 1
keeper) said he could see me catching a whole boatload of fish "the
way
I
fished" lol.

Sometimes it's just tough as nails & there's no explanation. It's
all
good
though...

Hopefully I'll do better up at the Hudson in the BASS Open next month.
I
sure couldn't do worse...

Warren


"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
The delaware doesn't count that's not a normal body of water.. I've
caught
two smallmouths on the delaware in two years, One, my biggest at
just
under
4 pounds the other a 5 inch smallie that took Dave's hair last year.

What I was trying to relay is that many of us head out with
expectations
of
winning a tourny or catching some good fish and very few of us
actually
come
in saying "I knew it was gonna be like this". I have never been in a
tourny
that I didn't think I was gonna win, call it confidence or
stupidity...
but
I haven't won one yet.(dress bets and hair bets excluded) Granted I
haven't
entered into a whole bunch, but I still think I can win every one or
outfish
just about anyone on neutral grounds and would be willing to take
anyone
on
no matter where it is just for the competition. Ok never mind I'm a
junkie..
I figured it out Thanks :-)
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Not so fast buckaroo! Yours truly came in smelling like a skunk
in
yesterday's NJ Federation tourney on the Delaware River lol. This
is
supposed to be my "home water"! Of course, I didn't feel so bad
after
seeing only 1 limit brought to the scales out of 120 or so guys.
Still
kinda humbling though...

Warren :-(

"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Man it never works out like you think it will( Warren excluded
of
course)
,
at least you two got to fish a bit together. I think I'm gonna
go
put
some
vinyl on the car glass. :-)
"Charles B. Summers" cbsummers@(bellsouth)(dot)(net) wrote in
message
. ..
Joe and I fished a night tournament last night with our club;
something
that
has just been returned to our schedule after many complaints
of
people
not
wanting to fish at night. But anyway, only about half of the
club
showed
up.

We fished several areas that had been productive for us in the
past,
but
nothing that was caught there would make the mark. Last
Tuesday
night,
I
fished a bank that I've pretty much ignored this year and
found
fish
with
my
Midnight Snack II spinnerbait. I told Joe that it would
probably
be
worth
the drive if he was up to it in the dark. He's a pretty good
sport,
and
being that we both know the lake and can probably drive it
blind
folded,
we
headed off.

My second cast, I hit a small little runt that was quick
released
at
the
boat. My bait was getting slammed but we weren't hooking
anything...
I
couldn't understand that. It could have been that the fish
were
striking
the
blades, and I almost decided to attach a treble hook to the
back
of
my
blade
attachment. Finally though, I did manage to hook up with a
2.06lb'er
that
went to the livewell. All the others that we caught were still
shy
of
the
15
inch mark. With about an hour left on the clock, we headed
back
toward
our
launch and fished one of our favorite banks... still catching
nothing
to
help us out. As time ticked away... we headed back with our
one
little
fish.

Seems that we weren't the only ones to have a bad night. First
place
was
a
little over 8lbs, second place was about 5, third place was
2.13lbs.
One
more fish for Joe and I would have taken third easy.

Sorry, but there was no pictures... LOL

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com

You really know how to hurt a guy.... LOL
Nice fish indeed!!

You and Warren are going to have to team up and get us up there for a ROFB
Classic! From the look on my map, that's a nice lake.


"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Charles wrote:
Musta just been a bad weekend.... Anyone else have any luck?


Sure, all you gotta do is fish Champlain instead of places that wish they
had a fish population like Champlain does.G

We arrived at Sportsmans Cottages by the Crown Point Bridge on Friday
night
shortly after the rain (4" on Friday) stopped up there. 6AM on Saturday,
Tom & I were ready to go do some serious nut flipping in South Bay. The
riverine southern end of Champlain looked like coffee with cream. South
Bay
though, was its usual, dingy green self, except close to the outlet into
the river/lake. The surface temp in the bay was 76, and there was a
moderately stiff breeze out of the east-north-east. Fishing started of
like
gangbusters, and we got 7 fish like these in the first hour and lost
almost
that many more.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/nut_1_tom.jpg

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/rich_nut_1.jpg

The hot deal was pitching Texas rigged Ozmo onto the chestnut and dragging
it along until either it found a hole or a fish made a hole trying to get
at it, then dropping it into the hole. I think we only caught one fish
actually flipping to existing holes. Seemed like we had to make a little
commotion on top to draw their attention first. The fish were all pretty
much carbon copies of each other, in the 3 to 3-1/4 pound range.

It really seemed like it was going to be a killer day in the nut. But it
was not to be. The wind kept shifting ever more northerly and getting
stronger and stronger. The wind and mud kept us confined to south bay, as
the river was ridiculously muddy from the rain the day before. On
Champlain
a north wind backs the water up in the canal and pushes water into south
bay, so that too was becoming muddier by the hour. And the fishing
tougher.

With only 3 more fish after that first hour and conditions becoming more
and more difficult to deal with, we decided to pack it in at about 1. We
put the boat on the trailer and headed up 22 to the crown point bridge. As
we were crossing the bridge, we noted that the wind direction left some of
our favorite spots just south of the bridge protected, so we put the boat
in the water and gave it a shot. We caught a half-dozen
pound-and-a-quarter
bass for our efforts, plus the highlight of the day -- at least until we
got a look at it...

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/beat_this.jpg

I gave Tom a hard time, because he had switched from the Ozmo we'd been
catching all our fish on, to one of his old standby Green Pumpkin/Green
flake Baby Brush Hogs when the fishing got tough, and THIS was the result?
All of the bass (and the drum, for what it's worth) came from 8 to 10 feet
of water in a sparsely vegetated band between a heavy milfoil bed and some
deeper growing cabbage.

On Sunday morning, the plan was to launch at the bridge if the water was
flat, and give an old favorite spot that I hadn't visited in several years
a quick shot, then pull the boat out and head down to Larabee's Point
(across from Ticonderoga) and put it back in to fish some of the prime
milfoil beds down there. When you're running a 14-1/2 footer with a 20,
you
don't make that run on the water. Sometimes I miss having a 20 foot bass
boat with a 200. Then I stop at the gas pump and get away with a $5 bill
after a weekend on Champlain and the fond longing goes away fast!

Sunday started off according to plan. Nice, clear water north of the
bridge, and a surface temp of only 64 degrees. That's really low for late
July, and it was pretty apparent that a lot of cold water from the "big"
section up above had been blown south over the previous 2 days. I don't
mind the cooling water, and I do love the morning twilight period. My 2nd
cast with the T-rigged Ozmo earned me this one.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/...orning_pig.jpg

Sorry about the flash washout on the bass's belly. I was more concerned
with making another cast than in trying to get a perfect photo. The next
hour produced another 5 fish -- 4 in the 3 pound range and one little rat.
The wind was still laying flat. We knew what we were dealing with in this
stretch of water, and we had no idea whether or not the mud had worked its
way north as far as Ti when the wing layed down. So much for plan A. We
decided to stay in the general area of the bridge. We checked another
couple normally productive spots within 5 miles or so of the bridge and
got
nothing till we hit the same spot we'd fished the night before. Then for
more than a half-hour, we caught bass almost non-stop. Tom was throwing a
Texas Rigged green pumpkin creature bait (There's that Ozmo again), and I
was drop shotting a 4.75" Green Weenie Rascal Worm. The fish were deeper
than we'd found them the day before -- 12 to 14 feet, on the outside of
the
cabbage (pondweed) and they weren't especially large. Mostly in the 1-1/2
to 2 pound range, with a couple that might've gone an ounce or two more.
But it was almost a fish on every cast, and we weren't about to move until
they turned off. And eventually, they did just that. It went from one
fish
after another to a 15 minutes without a bite, just like someone threw a
switch. Then I finally got a hit and caught a northern pike about 5 pounds
(on the drop shot rig with 4 pound line, it was a blast and a half). We
worked all around the point, from deep to shallow and back again, and
never
made contact with the bass again.

We hit another three or four spots very quickly, then went back north of
the bridge to the long point we'd started on in the morning. We spent the
rest of the day there, and it seemed like every half-hour or so, we'd get
three or four fish in five minutes, then go another half hour or
forty-five
minutes before we hit another little flurry. We weren't moving, so it
seemed like the fish must be. All of Tom's afternoon fish came on T-rigged
creatures (both the Ozmo and the baby brush hog) and all of mine came on
the drop shot rig. This one was pretty typical of the fish we were getting
on and off all afternoon.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/images/drop_shot1.jpg


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