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Old August 4th, 2004, 05:15 PM
W. D. Grey
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In article , Big Dale
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If you collect the some of these creatures , it will surprise you how thin the
body of the nymph is. I find that hard to duplicate with Chenille, and prefer
to dub the body very thin with something like wool or superfine dubbing for the
abdoman using just enough to slightly change the color of the thread. I like to
tie them on swimming nymph hooks and use either bead chain painted black or a
pair of black plastic beads that I find in sewing shops for the eyes of the
ones that I want to run very shallow. I use olive Squirrel dubbing in a loop
for the thorax and partridge for the legs.


Hi Big Dale,

Your tying is excellent BD, but although the insect is thin, we so ften
tie imitations that are bigger than the naturals. An example is the
midge pupa - the buzzer. Tied on a # 14 sedge hook it is enormous
compared to a natural, but the fish love them.

In my brief description of the tying, I forgot to mention the thorax.
This I usually tie with a slightly darker dubbed olive dubbing material
with a "wing" case of pheasant tail tied over and dividing the brown
partridge hackle. As for eyes, I don't usually bother, but on occasions
when I want a fly that will sink well, I tie in a gold head bead which
is then placed beneath the pheasant tail wing case. black eyes can be
painted on the bead if needed.

The trout aren't really fussy as long as it roughly represents the
natural.
Of course a well tied imitative pattern is a joy to behold :-)
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Old August 4th, 2004, 01:38 AM
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When the Damsel fly nymph sheds it's shuck, it first comes out in a tan
color with a hint of olive. As time goes on, they change color to blue and
then to blue and black. While they are tan, there are numerous criples.
You can tie a tan body, with irregular wings from a grizzly saddle, and
catch a lot fo fish.

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Has anyone ever come across a pattern that would imitate when a damselfly
emerges from the nymph form to the adult stage? I've seen plenty of nymph
patterns and drowned (dead) adult patterns, but nothing that would imitate
the emergence. Or am I just missing something?

Thanx in advance for any help.




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Old August 4th, 2004, 06:51 AM
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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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When the Damsel fly nymph sheds it's shuck, it first comes out in a tan
color with a hint of olive. As time goes on, they change color to blue

and
then to blue and black. While they are tan, there are numerous criples.
You can tie a tan body, with irregular wings from a grizzly saddle, and
catch a lot fo fish.



What about those damsel flies I see that have the red bodies?









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Old August 4th, 2004, 06:01 PM
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It is unlikely that you are seeing red damsel flies. There is another bug
called a dragon fly. these are much larger than a damsel (but very similar
in shape), and come in various colors including blue. If what you are
seeing is red, it is most likely a dragon fly. There also dragon fly nymphs
and they are much larger than damsel nymphs. The fish can be keying on them
and, since they are larger, the fish hit them hard.

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"Hooked" wrote in message
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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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When the Damsel fly nymph sheds it's shuck, it first comes out in a tan
color with a hint of olive. As time goes on, they change color to blue

and
then to blue and black. While they are tan, there are numerous criples.
You can tie a tan body, with irregular wings from a grizzly saddle, and
catch a lot fo fish.



What about those damsel flies I see that have the red bodies?









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Old August 4th, 2004, 07:19 PM
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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
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It is unlikely that you are seeing red damsel flies. There is another bug
called a dragon fly. these are much larger than a damsel (but very

similar
in shape), and come in various colors including blue. If what you are
seeing is red, it is most likely a dragon fly. There also dragon fly

nymphs
and they are much larger than damsel nymphs. The fish can be keying on

them
and, since they are larger, the fish hit them hard.



Actually what I am seeing are the same size of a normal blue damsel, only
the bodies are red. They are way too small for a dragon fly.

One that is very close to what I see, can be seen he
http://www.yesnet.yk.ca/schools/wes/...elfly_jpg.html

When I go out fishing this weekend, and one lands on my rod, I'll try to get
a picture and post it to a.b.p.f.



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Old August 4th, 2004, 11:36 PM
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In article , Hooked
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Actually what I am seeing are the same size of a normal blue damsel, only
the bodies are red. They are way too small for a dragon fly.


Quite right.

By the way a Dragon Fly can't close its wings down along its abdomen
like a Damsel fly can. The Dragon Fly has its wings always outstretched.

This might help in ID.
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Old August 4th, 2004, 09:36 PM
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:01:53 -0700, "Sierra fisher"
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It is unlikely that you are seeing red damsel flies.


au contraire, I've seen red damsel adults...
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Old August 4th, 2004, 10:20 PM
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daytripper wrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:01:53 -0700, "Sierra fisher"
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It is unlikely that you are seeing red damsel flies.


au contraire, I've seen red damsel adults...


We get lots of orange ones. Reddish orange on the bottom, orange and brown
on top.
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Old August 4th, 2004, 10:29 PM
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"daytripper" wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:01:53 -0700, "Sierra fisher"
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It is unlikely that you are seeing red damsel flies.


au contraire, I've seen red damsel adults...


Hi All,
Here is a link that has pics of red damselflies.
http://www.sonic.net/~bigsnest/Pond/...d_damsels.html

Out here I seem to just use blue and tan for the adults and olivish for the
nymphs.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver



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Old August 5th, 2004, 12:32 AM
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daytripper wrote:au contraire, I've seen red damsel adults...


OH WOW ! Look at all the pretty colors. Who would have figured that. I kind of
like the purple dragonflies that I see on occasion in East Texas... No, I don't
think it is the flashbacks.

Big Dale
 




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