is Bush anti- fly fishing?

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:08:29 -0600, bouncer
wrote:


This is pretty unsettling news, just thought I would voice my
opinion.

This summer I asked a well known ( I'd like to say who, but don't
have that permission... ) fly shop owner and very active
conservationist in trout stream protection, "Besides sending a check
to the right groups, what can I do, as an individual, to help protect
this area's trout streams and ecology."

Without hesitation the answer came, "Work to get Bush out of office."

Well, if one person in a fly shop said it then it MUST be true. ;-)

Perhaps he is talking about Craig Matthews and Blue Ribbon Flies? Craig
is a great guy and has a terrific shop. I could probably go into 50
other shops in Montana and Idaho and find the same type of response. I
can't blame most of these guys. They need to preserve the cold water
fisheries for their shops to survive. They read op-ed pieces that
indicate Bush is Satan and they take the info verbatim. Ask most shop
owners about the history of the watersheds they support and most won't
have a clue about the state of the fishery in the early 1900's. The
fact that the fisheries are in better shape and continue to improve has
little significance on their stance. Of course they might change their
minds after Kerry taxes the **** out of him if he is elected.

Now *there's* an excellent example of people who read op-ed pieces and take
the info verbatim...

/daytripper (real nice work there ;-)

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:12:52 -0600, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Bush is NOT a friend of our fisheries.

Absolutely correct - he isn't. But he isn't an enemy of them, either.
Last I checked, it isn't in the job description, and the same document
provides for no right(s) as to folks being able to fish on public
waters. The fact that it is available is much like a driver's license,
a hunting license, etc. - a privilege.

TC,
R

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:12:52 -0600, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Bush is NOT a friend of our fisheries.

Absolutely correct - he isn't. But he isn't an enemy of them, either.
Last I checked, it isn't in the job description, and the same document
provides for no right(s) as to folks being able to fish on public
waters. The fact that it is available is much like a driver's license,
a hunting license, etc. - a privilege.

TC,
R

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:50:06 GMT, wrote:

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:12:52 -0600, Willi & Sue
wrote:


Bush is NOT a friend of our fisheries.

Absolutely correct - he isn't. But he isn't an enemy of them, either.
Last I checked, it isn't in the job description, and the same document
provides for no right(s) as to folks being able to fish on public
waters. The fact that it is available is much like a driver's license,
a hunting license, etc. - a privilege.

TC,
R


http://www.johnkerry.com/communities...lofrights.html


And while we're on the subject.


http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Vote...=166434&page=4


I think we should send all the Swift Boat Vets for Truth jars of
Metamucil since they are obviously full of ****.



g.c.

Any fly-angler who gets unduly upset about an innapropriately placed bush
would be better advised to take up golf.

TL
MC

I think you're the one that needs to research Bush's and his Secretary
of the Interior, Gale Norton's record on environment protection as a
whole (ie look at their attempts to repeal and weaken the Clean
Water Act and the Clean Air Act) as well as their free market approach
to OUR National lands (ie the ONLY value our National lands have are
the money that they can generate).


Good to see you Willi.

I'm not going to defend Bush, Kerry or Barney on enviornmental issues.
I just want people to research the facts from all sites, including the
EPA, FS, BLM, and state health department issues. Take a look at the
discharge and remediation laws associated with many sites that are so
called un-friendly to the environment.

wrote:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:12:52 -0600, Willi & Sue
wrote:



Bush is NOT a friend of our fisheries.


Absolutely correct - he isn't. But he isn't an enemy of them, either.


I think his position on the Clean Water Act and his free market approach
to our National lands do make him an "enemy" of our fisheries.


Last I checked, it isn't in the job description, and the same document
provides for no right(s) as to folks being able to fish on public
waters. The fact that it is available is much like a driver's license,
a hunting license, etc. - a privilege.


Fishing may very well be a privilege (although there are States that
have it as a "right" in their constitutions) but the health of our
fisheries isn't.

Willi

Fly Rod & Reel magazine published an article on Bush's environmental
record by Ted Williams, the environmental writer, in an issue about
six months ago. It's the issue with Stormin' Norman Schwartzkopf on
the cover.

The current issue of Fly Fisherman magazine has an article on Bush's
environmental record by Ralph Cutter, who with his wife runs a fly
fishing school in California.

vince

wrote...
That is flat wrong. It depends, of course, on what waterways you've seen
and for how long you've seen them. For example, the Bush administration
fighting efforts to restore the salmon and steelhead runs in the Pacific
Northwest. Their court-ordered draft federal salmon plan rewrite is a
joke. Fortunately, it's getting lots of opposition from Congress,
fishing communities, tribes, businesses, and the press.

You're still voting for Bush though, right? :-)
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt and earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

wrote...
That is flat wrong. It depends, of course, on what waterways you've seen
and for how long you've seen them. For example, the Bush administration
fighting efforts to restore the salmon and steelhead runs in the Pacific
Northwest. Their court-ordered draft federal salmon plan rewrite is a
joke. Fortunately, it's getting lots of opposition from Congress,
fishing communities, tribes, businesses, and the press.

You're still voting for Bush though, right? :-)
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt and earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)