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Old October 30th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Dave LaCourse
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Myron writes:

Or just wear a wading belt! :-)


The guy had a belt on and I'm sure it did its job, but he was on the rock for
15 or 20 minutes, so his waders couldn't help but fill. Unfortunately, I don't
know *how* he cut them off. I would imagine just cutting the legs open at the
ankles would do the job, however.







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Old October 30th, 2004, 09:19 PM
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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Myron writes:

Or just wear a wading belt! :-)


The guy had a belt on and I'm sure it did its job, but he was on the rock
for
15 or 20 minutes, so his waders couldn't help but fill. Unfortunately, I
don't
know *how* he cut them off. I would imagine just cutting the legs open at
the
ankles would do the job, however.


I think so, too. Where's that story posted, Dave?

--riverman


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Old October 30th, 2004, 09:19 PM
riverman
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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Myron writes:

Or just wear a wading belt! :-)


The guy had a belt on and I'm sure it did its job, but he was on the rock
for
15 or 20 minutes, so his waders couldn't help but fill. Unfortunately, I
don't
know *how* he cut them off. I would imagine just cutting the legs open at
the
ankles would do the job, however.


I think so, too. Where's that story posted, Dave?

--riverman


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Old October 30th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Dave LaCourse
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Myron writes:

I think so, too. Where's that story posted, Dave?


In the other tread about wader safety. I didn't see it, but talked to the guys
that saved the dude from the river.








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Old October 30th, 2004, 10:34 PM
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Default Swimming with waders experiment. READ THIS!!

Myron writes:

I think so, too. Where's that story posted, Dave?


In the other tread about wader safety. I didn't see it, but talked to the guys
that saved the dude from the river.








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Old October 31st, 2004, 12:22 AM
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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
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...if you are in water cold enough to make you wear
waders...


An interesting, and thus far ignored, consideration. While Myron's
experiments are fascinating and have yielded important information, it bears
noting that avoiding impermeable fabrics in the first place (when possible)
makes the whole issue moot. Having conducted similar experiments myself in
black spandex, I can state unequivocally that floatation, drag, and dead
weight are non-issues. Having also spent a good deal of time astream with a
well known top-posting ****tard while he conducted similar experiments in
unsealed nylon pants as well as in shorts, I can attest that they work just
about as well. But then, he DID throw caution (as well as good sense) to
the wind on a recent outing by wearing waders.

Wolfgang
but then, he IS older than me.


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Old October 31st, 2004, 12:22 AM
Wolfgang
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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
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...if you are in water cold enough to make you wear
waders...


An interesting, and thus far ignored, consideration. While Myron's
experiments are fascinating and have yielded important information, it bears
noting that avoiding impermeable fabrics in the first place (when possible)
makes the whole issue moot. Having conducted similar experiments myself in
black spandex, I can state unequivocally that floatation, drag, and dead
weight are non-issues. Having also spent a good deal of time astream with a
well known top-posting ****tard while he conducted similar experiments in
unsealed nylon pants as well as in shorts, I can attest that they work just
about as well. But then, he DID throw caution (as well as good sense) to
the wind on a recent outing by wearing waders.

Wolfgang
but then, he IS older than me.


  #29  
Old October 31st, 2004, 01:27 AM
Dave LaCourse
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Kevin Vang writes:

Way back when I was a 15 year old poolrat, one thing we all had
to do to pass the Red Cross Lifesaving Course was to jump into
the pool fully clothed, then strip down in the water and turn
your pants into a PFD by tying knots in the legs and blowing them
up. It wasn't hard to do back then, but I may have been slightly
more limber then than I am now.

Of course, if you are in water cold enough to make you wear
waders, I think the extra insulation they would provide would
be more useful than extra flotation. I believe the definition
of a PFD is "a device to prevent you from drowning long enough
to die of hypothermia."

Kevin


That was standard training in Navy bootcamp back in the mid 50s. You had to
use your trousers, jumper, and even your dixie cup white hat. The trousers and
jumper could support your weight fairly well. You could trap air in the hat,
but I wouldn't want to depend on it for very long.










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Old October 31st, 2004, 01:27 AM
Dave LaCourse
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Default Swimming with waders experiment. READ THIS!!

Kevin Vang writes:

Way back when I was a 15 year old poolrat, one thing we all had
to do to pass the Red Cross Lifesaving Course was to jump into
the pool fully clothed, then strip down in the water and turn
your pants into a PFD by tying knots in the legs and blowing them
up. It wasn't hard to do back then, but I may have been slightly
more limber then than I am now.

Of course, if you are in water cold enough to make you wear
waders, I think the extra insulation they would provide would
be more useful than extra flotation. I believe the definition
of a PFD is "a device to prevent you from drowning long enough
to die of hypothermia."

Kevin


That was standard training in Navy bootcamp back in the mid 50s. You had to
use your trousers, jumper, and even your dixie cup white hat. The trousers and
jumper could support your weight fairly well. You could trap air in the hat,
but I wouldn't want to depend on it for very long.










 




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